This is going to be very unique clinic. If you were here for yesterday’s session, this is going to be very much the same. Is there anyone who was at yesterday session? Okay, this is going to be very similar, but what we hope to do this time is to be able to dim the lights so you can actually see the clarity and the whole HD revolution on the screen.
I’m going to speak very little, and David is going to speak a lot. I’ve been working with David for five years. He is not only a very accomplished filmer himself; and I’m going to let him tell you more about his background with regards to that. All I can say is that he is a pied piper, the kids love him, they listen, they follow, they improve and he’s got some great techniques, and one of them is this film analysis. And he brings a background in Hollywood and – I know you can tell better than myself – he’s had three feature films, he’s an actor, his wife is an actor too, he’s been [Indiscernible] [00:3:55] of the movie industry. He’s a quick learner and what he has learned over the years working in the industry, you’re going to be able to put it together on the cheap – we know money is tough right now. And we hope that you’ll put together a very sophisticated program for under – how much money, what do you think – a bunch of lies?
Male Speaker: For everything they need?
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:4:18] the most, less than that.
Male Speaker: So, don’t tell vendors we’re selling you or trying to sell all that big expensive stuff. So, I’d like to introduce David Rountree.
David Rountree: I’m going to stop there. So, a rival team actually won this race. And I caught some [Indiscernible] [00:06:49] from Coach Weaver yesterday on that one for showing our rivals win. But you got the idea of kind of what’s going on there. We had a lot of fun with this kind of stuff and I’m going to go into more details on this video in particular later and we had a few more we’re going to show. But I want to show you guys what’s capable of being done for not a lot of money which is pretty cool and not only to use this for entertainment value because the kids love seeing something like this, but for the training purposes as well because there is some invaluable assets to being able to film something like this. For me I’ve coaching swimming for 19 years. I was the head coach of a team when I was very young, running a team of about 150 kids. Coached on all levels, I’ve been coached club, I’ve coached YMCA, I’ve coached college, I currently coach Brentwood High School in Los Angeles. I’ve been working with Bryan, the Aquatic Director over there, he’s the water polo coach. So, we really work tight together and try to make everything work. Now as a swimmer myself, I swam up to college, I didn’t really get fast until after college. When I was in high school – I’m from North Carolina – that sounds weird, it’s almost tragic if you don’t really get fast after college. When I was in high school, I had a coach named Billy Thorn [Phonetic] [00:8:03] in North Carolina. Billy was my coach since I was a little kid, Billy was my coach in high school. And I when I got up to high school, my dad would videotape our races and then Billy and I would sit down after the meet and critique them. We watched after every single meet and he’d say, “Okay, this is what we’re doing. This is what we’re doing. This is what we’re doing.” And I started getting faster. I was a breaststroker – from 1:07 in the hundred junior year to 00 at the end of my senior year, just by watching video tape. 00 was a decent high school swimmer, not bad, but I wanted to take it to the next level. So, when I get in college, coming in as a 00 breaststroker, you’re kind of in the mix with a bunch of other kids. In college I really never got that much faster. I got a lot bigger and a lot stronger. I grew about 4 inches, gained about 40 pounds, and did not really get as fast as I wanted. I got in the 57 range but I was hoping to go a lot faster. I couldn’t figure out what was going on until I called my high school coach, I’m like, “Billy, I cannot get any faster. It so frustrating, what’s going on?” He says, “Well, send me some of your tapes. Let’s take a look at them.” I don’t have any tapes. What about tapes from practice, are you guys videoing there? I’m going to take a look at some of that.” “We don’t tape in practice.” “Alright, well, that’s a problem, that makes a lot of sense.” When I finished college, I was tired of trying. I was done. I was so frustrated because I didn’t go as fast as I knew that I could. And I knew I had more potential and I was so frustrated, I gave up on swimming and I became an actor. Kind of crazy. I was coaching a kid whose girlfriend went to a talent school. She says come check out our school. Next I know I’m on a TV serial working as actor for an entire year. I’m not [Indiscernible] [00:9:43]. It’s a cool little deal working from that. But I still have this passion for swimming. And I knew that if I can get back and involved with swimming somehow, everything in my life was going to start improving. My relationships, my friends, everything like that, everything that come out of the swimming world, I want to stay true to that. So, I had to get back to that but I also wanted to stay with the acting. I’ve worked on these films, multimillion dollar films and I’ve worked on these TV shows, millions of dollars in their budget, and I watch these directors work, and I’ll be like, “Man, I can do that. I’ve got different visions than these guys.” I see things differently, I feel like if they do this, it’d be better but I don’t have these millions of dollars in my budget to make these movies. I don’t have a $100 million Michael Bay budget to get this big giant dolly on these railroad tracks and slide down back and forth to follow all the actions, those big cranes that come way up in the sky and film everything. But if I can find a way to make that for cheaper, I can make my movies. I can do this. So, I started trying to figure ways to make this happen. Now, I moved out to Los Angeles because that’s where all the acting takes place. With my move to Los Angeles, I had to get back involved with swimming. So, the first job I had… because working as an actor in LA, you’re not making any money when you get started. If you ever make any money, that’s great. So, I got my first coaching job out here. So, I’m coaching these little kids, 8 years old, 10 years old and my oldest swimmers were like 13 or 14 at the time; and I say, “Well, video helped me so much. I want to video tape these kids.” Now, how many of you guys remember the old big bulky Coach Scope? Have you ever tried pulling one of those things out? It’s ridiculous. Those are like 400 pounds. You’ve got to take that thing, you’ve got to lug it to the pool deck, set it up and it works like a big periscope and you can play it back and forth and you’ve got to set your camera, and we would use that but it’s so bulky. So, when something like that is so bulky, where does it end up? Storage closet. You don’t want to waste your time pulling it out, you don’t want to set it all up, film for like 10 minutes and then have to pull it out after practice. Most people are tired; they want to go home instead of putting all the gear up. So, I started thinking, I’m like, how can I film underwater? What’s a good way to do that? Well, if I’m able to figure out how to make this stuff for the film world on a cheaper thing, how do I do it for swimming? How can I incorporate the same concept with it? And that’s when I started thinking. I called my dad and I said, “Dad, you know, I want to film underwater. How can I do this, I can’t afford to buy these big elaborate things we use in the film world.” I had to do a dead scene in a pond one time where I got killed and they wanted a great shot and they had this whole big harness thing built and all these lights and cameras and everything. The whole rig cost $300,000. It’d be amazing for what we want to do as swim coaches, but who’s got that? My dad says, “Remember in third grade when you built that little periscope out of cardboard and mirrors?” Did you guys ever do one of those when you were kids, like a little box that comes up, you got a 45 degree mirror here and one there and you look down and [Indiscernible] [00:12:55] side. “Just building one of those.” But yeah, it’s going to get wet. The cardboard doesn’t – “No, don’t get a PVC pipe. Go to home depot, $50 you got a PVC pipe, you’re good to go. Little plastic mirrors from Michael’s craft store, you know, 38 cents apiece, glued one end at the right angle, and then you can see underwater. Alright, let’s try it. So, we take that, we set up our cameras, we film our kids, and it’s amazing. The thing only weighs a pound and a half. Yes?
Male Speaker: So, how did you seal the end?
David Rountree: Now, the ending you can take the same type of thing. You get a covering with the Plexiglas and you seal it to the end with any kind of adhesive that works – acrylic adhesive.
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:13:37] for these Plexiglas.
David Rountree: We glue it to the end, yeah. Now, we found a better way later which we’ll get into a little bit later. But yes, the same principle because [Indiscernible] [00:13:44]. So, that was the first way to do it and I started thinking like, “Okay, cool. How do we make this work?” Then I was still figuring out what I wanted to do so, I said, “I’m going to hop in the water, videotape myself. Using me as a demonstration on the tape for the kids and let them see the right way to swim.” Now again, 57 breaststroker descend. Now bad, I felt like I had enough skill and knowledge with my own strokes and the kids can watch that and learn how to do this. So, pop in the periscope, I hop in and swim. I’m like, “Cool, let’s get on watching.” And all I saw are all these mistakes.
Female Speaker: Your own mistakes?
David Rountree: My own mistakes. And I’m like, “Yeah.” So, remember when I said don’t do this and don’t do that, like right here and right here. Like when I pull down, I had no idea. I was pulling down here and when I was coming up, my elbows are coming out. Big gap right there, creating this drag. I was down to here, I was kicking up, lifted my head up. My first stroke like that, all that drag getting right here. I’ve no idea because that entire span of college, nobody picked up on that. Because this is stuff you can’t really see from the top of the deck. You kind of see it but unless you’re standing right over the lane looking at the kid, you’re going to miss a lot of other stuff. You’re going to miss when the hand goes into the water in freestyle, you take that first stroke, that the elbow was the first thing to start the stroke instead of coming over that barrel so to speak out here. It’s hard to see. You’re not going to be telling the breaststroker that the thighs are coming forward on the kick because you just can’t tell. Now, you can see all the stuff on top of the water. You can see them butterfly, their heads up too long, and the arms are coming up, you can see little things like that, but explaining it to a kid, it’s hard to make sense. Now, in the film world, the way we say and the way I teach film, is what the eyes see and what the ears hear the mind believes. You see a big explosion in a movie, your eyes see it, your ears hear it, you mind believes it. It’s real. You know it’s a movie but you buy into it. Kids and swimming are the same way. You can kneel on the deck all day long and talk to the kids and say, “You know what, when you’re doing your arms, your arms are coming way up here. You’re putting too much pressure on your shoulder, you need to keep that elbow up, keep it here nice and relaxed as it comes up.” “Alright, I got it.” And they go right back something like this, backstroke, your head’s up when you’re swimming like that, you’re not relaxed, you’re not coming back.” “Okay, I got it.” And they go right back to the same thing again. Until they can actually see it, it doesn’t make sense. So, that’s where we started coming up with concepts for video and figuring out how to make this thing work. Now, in the film world, a lot of big budget films are hundreds of millions of dollars. I found ways to make my films for a lot cheaper. I’ve produced three feature films now. And out of the three, my first one that I did was about $65,000 – $70,000. Studios loved that because they’re not having to spend all that money. They can buy your film and they can make millions off of it. They love you. Now, my latest film that I did was a million dollar budget, let’s push it up there but again it looks like $20 million running to it. When I direct commercials, same thing, I’ll direct a commercial, I’ll make the entire thing for about a $100 where big companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. So now we’re getting all this work because we’re not spending any money to make it. As swim coaches we don’t have big budgets. We’re not given thousands of dollars to go to the vendors out here and buy all this crazy stuff. There’s so much out there, I would love to have – you see those starting blocks out there with the little bend on the back? I’d love to get those for our pool. We have a [Indiscernible] [00:17:23] pool, I think it’s amazing but they’re 800 bucks a piece. So, we got [Indiscernible] [00:17:26] director and be like, “Okay, we already spent everything on buying vents [Phonetic] [00:17:29] but can we get 10 of these vents [Phonetic] [00:17:33] for the starting blocks at $800 apiece? It’d be great.” They’ll laugh at us. It’s hard enough to get [Indiscernible] [00:17:39]. That’s just a handful of dollars. So, we’ve got to find ways to make things for cheap. Now, this is where – I’m going to bring some stuff here. This is one tribute to Coach Weaver here who’s the water polo coach here. We got a little water polo [Indiscernible] [00:17:57] for him. [Indiscernible] [00:17:58]. Now, we had some of our kids make this for FunTube [Phonetic] [00:18:03]. So, you’re going to see a swimmer kid production here.
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David Rountree: And there are some more clips here and we’re going to talk about all this in a minute.
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David Rountree: Alright, so [Indiscernible] [00:20:35] made that a hell of fun with it. But incorporating how we use underwater technology and the kids did all of this. They were able to put the underwater stuff and run it and edit it. So, if they can do it, we assume coaches can easily do this. When I took that periscope footage of myself swimming and I saw all the mistakes I was doing, it inspired me to get back in and start training again. Within a year, I went from 57- 8 [Phonetic] [00:21:01] to whatever my college time was down to 54 breaststroke because I corrected a few things in my own stroke after I retired and quit swimming. Now, when I saw how fast I was able to go and make those changes, this became very important. The kids love it because it is different. But it’s such a huge training tool. Now, with our school here in Los Angeles and we are very privileged to have a lot of celebrity kids that go to our school. The environment that what we have there, it’s a private school we have, a lot of people that come there, that are very well-known. They kind of remain anonymous in this world out here, but we’re working with kids. And talking about out relay team, could have been a celebrity relay team you see on TMZ. We had the son of Oliver Stone, the son of Jack Nicholson, the son of Arnold Schwarzenegger, up and coming we have the son of Harrison Ford and most recently we had the son of Mark Spitz. So, these are the people we’re working with here. Justin Spitz who came from an incredibly genetic background of swimming did not swim, had more than nothing to do with it, he’s playing basketball. Maybe he didn’t want the pressure of his dad, the legacy and things like that, but because we were filming, he watched the video that we made of our kids swimming from one of his friends, he got excited and wanted to come check it out. Popped in the pool 50 free first days, he was like 27 as a junior, never swam. We were like, “That’s alright.” We kept working with him, kept filming, within a year he was going 21 low and he’s in Stanford. Because we’re able to find all these little flaws and correct them. Now, again millions of dollars can be spent on the budget to make this happen. This is where we’re going to talk about how to make this work. If you go back to the – you know, you cut the lights off of this – our lead championship meet. We use several things to make this happen. The very first thing we did is we created a shot up top. Now, this is a big crane shot. While people don’t have access to big cranes, cranes cost thousands of dollars. In movie making I would love to have crane shots in all my movies. I don’t have that kind of budget. So, you can get high on something and film down, that’s the [Indiscernible] [00:22:30] stuff. What we found is you can make your own jib, your own crane or you can find them online. You can buy them, there are many websites. After we’re done here, I’ll give you my email address and I can email you guys all of this information. You don’t even need to write it down now but there’s a website called Tommyjib. It creates little camera jibs for cranes for your productions. They can go up 12, 14 feet high, 150 bucks. That’s it. You can get this cool shot like this, a high shot. Now, the next one, and you see this shot here in the Olympics all the time, the dolly shot as it comes on. As they’re swimming you can see the camera [Video plays] [00:24:00] – the camera follows the swimmers. Now, this has been official here because most of you guys stick the camera on a tripod back and forth. That’s cool it works. But you’re not able to stay with that swimmer. The best training that we ever did was being put in a flume where you can swim in one place. The camera’s right there and observes you. This is the same principle as this. Now, again a dolly costs thousands of dollars but we figured out how to make it for cheap. This is the first thing I want to show you. We built this dolly for film production and started using it in the swimming world. Underneath here, what kind of wheels are these?
Male Speaker: Skateboard.
David Rountree: Skateboard wheels? [Indiscernible] [00:24:42] shop down the streets sells these. We fit skateboard wheels on this piece of metal right here on 45, [Indiscernible] [00:24:50], welded into this – I know [Indiscernible] [00:24:52] scares you guys but don’t worry about that. It’s on the frame, wooden block; we built our dolly to set the tripod on or the camera. Now, tracks costs a lot of money, this is PVC pipe. This one here $ 39 on [Indiscernible] [00:25:08] this one here is cut; you put one of the elbows on it. Now, you guys have all seen the crazy parents at swim meets follow their kids down the pool like this. You get that bouncy camera do the whole thing? It’s hard to critique that, it’s hard to see what’s really going on. You fit something like this, put a tripod on it, perfectly smooth and it’ll follow the swimmers. Now, you can buy 18 foot pieces whatever going to leave to your pool with it. We set this one for practice, this is [Indiscernible] [00:25:40]. My wife over here is pregnant and carrying this thing. I mean, it’s not like a big heavy thing. You can set it up in practice and you can film your kids back and forth and you can follow them all the way down and in a turn and follow them all the way back. So, this is the easy stuff. Now, other websites like the Tommyjib, it sells that one which is my favorite. I’m not getting any money for promoting these guys, these people I use, I bought lots of stuff from craigslist, Amazon, whatever but Tommyjib is a good one. They sold this and carry it like that. Ends pop out, tripods screws in the side; it fits on your dolly track. You just have to make it the right way, very smooth and back and forth. Now, in the swimming meet you may not be able to set it up something like that but at least for practice you can film for the benefits of what you guys need to do. This is so simple. Yes?
Male Speaker: How much did you say that was?
David Rountree: This right here? I think, $129, something like that.
Male Speaker: Okay.
Female Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:26:37]
David Rountree: If you look up under dolly, D-O-L-L-Y. They have all kinds of accessories like this. And you can find them on craigslist in the film and video section. All the time [Indiscernible] [00:26:47] in LA, we might see more than you guys will if you’re not in Los Angeles but still if you’re going in any site on the film and video in craigslist, you’ll still find stuff. Yes?
Male Speaker: Is eBay a source too?
David Rountree: eBay is a great source. You can buy your wheels if you want to build one on eBay. You can buy your full dollies on eBay. You bid for them, so it’s pretty cheap. It’s a very easy way to do it. Now, we’re talking about all this stuff how to film but what do you use to film. This is one source, this is the flip camera. Do you guys use the flip? Anybody? Okay. This flip is pretty cool. I got my underwater casing off eBay, 14 bucks, fits my flip camera right here. Flip cameras now are no longer in business but there are tons of them still online that are going for next and nothing. You pop in the underwater case, now you go underwater, you can film your swimmers, take it right out, plug it right into your television and watch it. Yes?
Male Speaker: I just want to mention that the flips are HD and they also have image stabilization built in. So, they’re really fantastic and it fits right into your pocket.
David Rountree: Yeah, they’re so easy. In fact for the first water polo game of the season, a couple of days ago, we videotaped the entire thing and the entire game was on a DVD, almost before we got home from the bus, ready to go, ready to be watched. Now, this is cool, the flip is really good but something’s putting the flip out of business. Anybody know what that is? There are 185 million of them around the world right now – cell phones, iPhones. Anybody here on iPhone? Okay, a lot of people have them, the swimmers have them, and their parents have them. This thing has a video on here. Now, here’s the cool thing about this. The iPhone is now so powerful that there are feature films being made with the iPhone. There are stabilizers you can buy for this that will hold on to it so that it’s not going to shake. There’s an accessory now that you can attach your own Canon and Nikon, thousand dollar lenses too, and they’re making full feature films with the iPhone. But the thing that is the best about this is that as soon as you’re done filming something, you can email it, just like that. One of our swimmers is doing starts. We videotaped 10 of the starts, before she got home she had it all emailed to her account so she can sit there and look at them, as they were done. Now, here’s the cool thing, do you guys coach club summers? Okay, younger swimmers, they go to the swim meets, they have the iPads. They also going to play with the iPads at swim meets. Kids that are now 7-8 years old sit there on the iPad [Indiscernible] [00:29:28] baby sitters, they give it to them and say, “Here, go play.” You can sit there, film a race, email it to them right there on their iPad and when you guys break to do the 400 IMs and you’re only in [Indiscernible] 0:29:40] 12. You got 11 [Indiscernible] [00:29:41] before you, you can go right to their iPads, sit there and talk about their events right there in front of them because it goes back to what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes. “I told you about this and now we can see it. So, how do we correct this?” And we can use this right out of the gate for swimmers to improve. The [Indiscernible] [00:29:58] video the breaststroker who was swimming right here.
Male Speaker: Did you do that underwater.
David Rountree: No, there is an underwater iPhone case now that you can actually get. I’ve never used it, but I found a way to use the iPhone to film underwater which I’ll talk about in a second.
Male Speaker: Yes, you see directly into an iPad? I thought you had to go through some secondary thing.
David Rountree: You can email that to yourself…
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:30:27]
David Rountree: With [Indiscernible] [00:30:31]?
Male Speaker: Yeah, iPad doesn’t have that.
David Rountree: No, but you can just email it to your account and you pull it out on your iPad and play it. Yes.
Female Speaker: Well, I just kind of mentioned the [Indiscernible] [00:30:39] iPhone, so if we could get that, [Indiscernible] [00:30:43]
David Rountree: Yeah.
Female Speaker: We can take a chance on the [Indiscernible] [00:30:45]
David Rountree: Which before a year ago you couldn’t do that. So, I got nowhere near the pool. As soon as I got… they offered me insurance, I said it don’t need it and I fell in the toilet, and that killed that one. So, pretty crazy. Now, this bridge here, this breaststroker you’re coming in, we emailed this clip because their coach asked about the breaststroker coming [Indiscernible] [00:31:06] relay, we want to see, we go to the underwater footage, we like to see it. So, they could not figure out how to fix this guy’s stroke, the guy who was coming out right here, that’s the camera underwater right there. So, he was one of the top breastrokers in our league. We have our league champs that ended up on Thursday, our CIF Championships for the following Tuesday. So, in those four days or five days whatever it turned out to be, the coach took this tape right here and he looked at it and said, “Okay, what’s going on?” There’re two strokes, well, there is full extension in my breaststroke, my legs come together, my hands are already out like that, he [Indiscernible] [00:31:44] – he’s not getting that kick to push through.” He saw two strokes here on this underwater shot, told the kid, the kid is up three and a half seconds in his underwater breaststroke at our state championships just like that. So, how do we get the underwater for cheap?
Now, again, I don’t sell any of this stuff. I’m not a vendor, I don’t make any money if you buy this stuff, but I’m the one to try to figure out I need a periscope and I’m going to bring to show you guys the PVC one. I talked to my friend back home, he’s got two kids like three and two or four and two, and he says, “No, check it out, there is a new periscope you can buy for kids.” I was like, “Alright, let’s see what we got here.” Check this out. And again the volume is not turned up, it’s not hooked up, I didn’t hear, through the back of the computer.
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David Rountree: backyardsafari.com and how much is it? 20 bucks. So, it goes back to the PVC periscope why spend all your time and effort trying to build something that may cost 10 bucks when you can buy this whole thing for 20 right here. Now, with the periscope, take your iPhone and you can put a little platform on, set you iPhone in, film it underwater and then you’ve got the footage ready to go. That’s a quick way to do it when you can actually see what you’re filming. Now, the best way that I do filming now underwater – has anybody seen one of these? Have you ever used it? GoPro? You got them, pretty awesome – This is the GoPro. Now this is what we use to film on our big champs. You look [Indiscernible] [00:34:06] it has got a little base on the bottom and rotates. This thing will sit right on the bottom of your pool. Now, I bought this off eBay for about 150 bucks, I think brand new, they are a little over 200, you can get it at any sporting goods store, you can find it at a Target, that’s why I was on Amazon.com, eBay, you can find this stuff pretty cheap. And if you go back to [Indiscernible] [00:34:29] not that one, let’s go to 71.
Female Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:34:41]
David Rountree: You can attach this to a helmet, you can attach it to your body, surfers use it, they attach it to their surf boards I went rafting last weekend, I attached it to the raft. Now, this thing is in a heavy-duty case, so if you drop it, it’s not going to mess up the camera; camera comes out, it’s inside. If you are getting, [Indiscernible] [00:34:59] quick. This is the pool right here, you can see all eight lanes in here, this camera is 12 yards out from the starting block. We’ve found a place right in the middle of our pool, we set this down, you get all eight lanes on the wide setting. Now, if you know what the wide setting is, you can tighten it down, it’s just a little function, it’s the button you push, you’re coming much tighter. If you take it off the stand later at the bottom, you can put it flat and your swimmers swim right over the top of it. This is incredible because you can take this right to your computer and play it on the computer or you can hook it up right to your TV. When I learned about this, and I got this, it just saved me thousands of dollars, I just directed a beer commercial and we wanted this great shot of the hand reaching in the cooler grabbing the beer. Well, we had been given the entire underwater setup the production was budgeting for a couple thousand dollars. I said, you know what, I got a hundred dollar GoPro, I’ll get the same shot for nothing. Stuck it in there, they love the shot and [Indiscernible] [00:35:58] it. This thing is amazing because this will get you underwater shots which make a tremendous amount of difference. Your kids can see [Indiscernible] [00:36:06] You set it on the bottom, you hit record and we put a 32 Gig card in this, our swimming was 4 hours long, we got the entire swim meet.
Male Speaker: Is it waterproof like that?
David Rountree: Yeah. This is the GoPro, it’s what I’m using now more than anything else. Pops out of the case, that’s the camera, the card goes inside, it’s got an adapter right there, you can plug it right to your TV or you can take the SD card out stick it into your computer and play it on your computer. This thing is amazing, this thing is revolutionizing the entire industry in film that – we’re in a hotel room getting indoors, the entire commercial that was filmed by the GoPro. They saved millions of dollars by using this thing; it’s so simple because the kids can see everything they are doing. Now, we use this for our swim lessons. We were in summer camps all summer, we took our footage from the beginning of day 1, we filmed our kids, we filmed them on day 4 and in between. And every day we point out to the kids this is what you are doing in your strokes. We spent about half an hour and that was it. We do them, show them the tape every single day. By the end of the week, the fifth day, we gave them a DVD of everything they had done to improve. Now, we don’t name drop a lot but in our school we do have some people that came there, [Indiscernible] [00:37:28] Harrison Ford’s kid, who was like 10, the last day, Harrison came to pick up his kid and he sat there and he watched video from his kick the first day and he watched from the last day and he was blown away by how much he had improved. And everything this kid had been telling him all week long about swimming now made sense to Indiana Jones. So, that was the running joke, if you had learned how to swim with our underwater footage, he could have swum to that airplane faster when they were shooting the [Indiscernible] [00:37:56]. It’s pretty crazy. But, it’s a lot of it, it makes so much sense and it’s so easy to do this. Now, you may get other cameras that are underwater, there are some that don’t have to be in a case now. There is a Kodak camera which is great, but you’ve got to find a way to get it in the water. Now, to get it in the water, you can buy a wooden pole and you can get the actual screw which goes into the bottom of it, drilling yourself and do it, you don’t need to spend thousands of dollars, you’ve just got to find the right screw head that fits at the bottom of it and sticks in, you stick it down. Now, I think the flip has a function you can reverse it because you are going to get an underwater shot here that’s upside down but a lot of editing programs out there now have a simple function, Movie Maker and other [Indiscernible] [00:38:37] you can just flip it right there and make it easier, that [Indiscernible] [00:38:40] your computer upside down. So, pretty crazy. We are kind of running out of time, we’ve got to hear a little bit later we are getting toward the end. So, I wanted to see if you guys have any questions right now.
Male Speaker: Yeah, I have a feeling that the [Indiscernible] [00:38:54] questions.
David Rountree: Yes.
Male Speaker: With GoPro did you buy [Indiscernible] [00:39:01] on the case, since I know the problem those [Indiscernible] [00:39:07] concave lens make the shots fuzzy underwater. I know, I had to buy like a flat lens, which gives…
David Rountree: For underwater casing?
Male Speaker: Yeah.
David Rountree: Did you make a case… because this one does give you the fisheye to spread it out. And we use this one because we wanted to get all eight lanes. But they have another case for it just like you said, it’s just plastic [Indiscernible] [00:39:27] which is 10 bucks, something like that. So, it’ll give you that more true image. But as you can see in the races even without the wide lens on it…
Male Speaker: The image is pretty good.
David Rountree: Yeah, this is pretty clear. This is a very quick, this is a very low resolution movie I tried not to bring you guys today…
Male Speaker: Afterwards you guys should come up to see how…
David Rountree: And watch with a computer you can see it up here. But, this is just a little resolution copy of this movie. We did the full Hi-Def version of it. You can see a little pixilation here but the pixilation is not in the full quality version of it. But, it’s not touchy foggy, and from our video here we filmed in a 720×1080 which is still Hi-Def but it’s not as Hi-Def just to give us a longer viewing time for recording a four and a half hour meet. But, you can see the quality is pretty good. That side you can see it has more true colors but it looks like…
Female Speaker: Another question. So, let’s talk about… I’m not a filmmaker, I don’t have a smart phone, I want to get an iPad, yeah, I don’t have an iPhone. Do you just turn this thing on, have somebody situate it and just leave it?
David Rountree: For the underwater one? Yes, we had swimmers swim down after warm-ups are over, take it on the bottom, leave it alone.
Female Speaker: Okay, so, when.. I [Indiscernible] [00:40:46] there’s been a lot of things that I really want to do all year is to film them, let’s go watch movies and have some popcorn and then do this. And so for me I want to have an underwater… this thing is awesome because when you do need to get that. But, how do you do it? [Indiscernible] [00:41:07] bottom, how do you get a shot? [Indiscernible] [00:41:11] figure out a shot from up top? A side shot where you see [Indiscernible] [00:41:12] are you using that as [Indiscernible] [00:41:18]
David Rountree: You can use the paraskill to do it, you can do… you can do something like that. What we did originally was film basically [Indiscernible] [00:41:26] out here with a PVC pipe down underneath the water and we just put some weights on this here, solid. Put [Indiscernible] [00:41:34] underwater PVC, have your camera and we just follow the swimmer. So, you get the side shot all the way out there and then again PVC is a dollar [Indiscernible] [00:41:44] – you’ve just got to make sure you don’t have your camera too bulky or your set too bulky which connects it which will create all these waves underwater.
Female Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:41:54] that type of shot?
David Rountree: You can use either one of these, you can definitely attach the GoPro, you can attach a flip to it. They’ve got these smart phones now with underwater casings – any of that works just fine. The hardest part is not really being able to see underwater of what you are filming, that’s why with the periscope idea because if you got your phone or your GoPro or anything, you could film from the periscope what you are really watching. And if you got anyone that’s handy at all, they can take the periscope attached to the dolly and go right along with it, you can watch it. So, that’s pretty easy.
Male Speaker: Another thing about the GoPro, you can also buy the LCD screen for it [Indiscernible] [00:42:32] right away
David Rountree: Yeah, you can see [Indiscernible] [00:42:37] just take it right [Indiscernible] [00:42:39] They’ve got tons of attachments and just the popularity is growing in this, and they just keep getting more and more attachments. Now, the GoPro, I got mine for $115. New ones are over $200.
Male Speaker: I just want to say that David doesn’t have to do the filming, neither [Indiscernible] [00:42:56] the quality comes up pretty well. The kids get really good at this stuff. [Indiscernible] [00:43:03] practice. And you just turn it over to them, they will go take off.
David Rountree: And they love it. One of the kids is in the lane and just starting to record and this is actually his water polo practice, we were teaching the kids egg-beater, they want to see what their egg-beater looks like. So, we put the GoPro on the bottom and we can correct all the kicks right here like this. Now, you can do the same thing with dolphin kick; we have taken our fliers and had them do vertical kicking and we can show them how in their kicking underwater in certain angles they’ve got a really good kick in one direction but the other direction isn’t… and you want that dolphin kick and the fly get down and up, down and up. And a lot of them had a strong down kick but it floats up. So, we caught them underwater like this, had them do vertical kicking, and you can really demonstrate and see. And not just the camera here, [Indiscernible] [00:43:51] swimmers kind of rotate around it. Here you can put them right in front, kick, kick, 10 good seconds and then rotate them through. You can see if those knees are bending or whatever and then pop your way out and let them go watch it while you, will still be training or having a group rotate drill. Tape your eight swimmers there in the lane, take 10 minutes of the station, pop them up and pop somebody else in. So, there are lots of ways to do it. The hard part is finding the time to show the video. If you have a team of 40 kids, you’re not going to watch 40 different races because the kids are going to lose interest. So, you’ve got to get creative on how you are going to show it.
Female Speaker: Is there a way to.. you said we… our pool, there is not a wireless system in our pool. I mean, we got one corner in our pool that’s wireless [Indiscernible] [00:44:35] so if I wanted to film that practice and show them [Indiscernible] [00:44:42], they all hang around – they’ve got nowhere to go, I’m finished and we can just hang out like brothers and sisters. So, how do you get it, if you’ve got to your Go Pro or your [Indiscernible] [00:44:51] and so now you can put it [Indiscernible] [00:44:54] wire to attach this [Indiscernible] [00:44:57] computer [Indiscernible] [00:44:59] okay.
David Rountree: You can get for 120 bucks, you can get a little box screen TV and use that as your monitor, put it on a table, plug it right into there and go watch around the pool.
Female Speaker: So, as I get in and out type of thing or an SVC.
David Rountree: Yeah, [Indiscernible] [00:45:15] I take the clip and I turn it on, so I come on right now and [Indiscernible] [00:45:23] here is the water polo game from the other day. As soon as this is done with the ring, you can stop, you can plug it right into a TV and it plays right there on the spot.
Male Speaker: Sure the flip got USB?
David Rountree: That’s got a USB to go to your computer as well.
Female Speaker: So, I can just hook it up to… If I had a laptop…
David Rountree: Connect to your laptop and it plays [Indiscernible] [00:45:45]
Female Speaker: What type of software do I need in my laptop to be able to play that?
David Rountree: It comes with this. If you get flip it’ll give you a disc to play in and you just hit install and within 30 seconds it’s ready to go.
Female Speaker: A Mac or a PC.
David Rountree: Mine works with the Mac but I think they work with both. It’ll just tell you which one to install. And if you don’t your kids probably would.
Male Speaker: The TV [Indiscernible] [00:46:08] HD TVs now will have [Indiscernible] [00:46:10] plug it right [Indiscernible] [00:46:12]
David Rountree: Yes, I think somebody donated an old big screen TV and they pulled it out and started to [Indiscernible] [00:46:18] it’s got big screens, it’s got a huge speaker. Looks like I can’t plug anything into this, it does me good because I want to put a Mickey Mouse [Indiscernible] [00:46:34].
David Rountree: Most TVs have the yellow, red and white inputs, that’s all you need.
Female Speaker: You need to be… yes, right.
David Rountree: Just like this, these come with the cords to use. So, it’ll come with one of the cords in this end over here and goes to your TV with VL port – or you’ll have the HDMi which goes to Hi-Def TVs now. It’ll come with whatever you need. It’s just a matter of… once you do it once or twice and you know how to do it, piece of cake. Now if you don’t want to build a dolly or things like that, you can buy them ready-made, this is pretty easy. I think that’s on the Tommyjib site $129… You should give me money for telling you all this stuff. You know, $129 right here for this one, and you can take your camera and literally set it on the dolly right there [Indiscernible] [00:47:20] you put it on a tripod, it just goes right along with the kids. And this stuff is already made – hard to make stuff. You can tell it to do this, do this, it is just more creative. The jib, the camera crane which I was talking about, right here I’ve got. You guys can see that? The camera goes on the end, you guys might [Indiscernible] [00:47:39] the camera crane [Indiscernible] [00:47:39] high angles that you can rotate with it also. This is $249. This one is the big one, goes up to 14 feet tall – shooting these really high angles all the way up. We use it for our film production. I talked about Tommyjib, that’s a good one, Amazon craigslist. These are the easy ones to do and they are so simple, you can always find a deal… Yeah.
Female Speaker: When you’re editing your movies to put everything together and make it like [Indiscernible] [00:48:06] what software are you using for editing? Are you using an iMovie or…
David Rountree: I use Final Cut Pro which being a film director is kind of I guess it’s in our program. It’s like a… The iMovie is the one that once you learned how to edit, it’s more advanced, you just have more options and things like that. But iMovie now is so easy to use. I have kids that are 8-9 years old that come and say, “Look what I made and with iMovie.” I took my underwater footage here and I filled all these ripple effects in and these explosions and did all these titles and crazy stuff like that. So, it’s so simple to use. For me when I’m doing mine with our big production there, I wanted to make it look really professional and had the titles and the results and little things like that and really work on the eds and make things work. But everything I build with this movie will be champ movie [Indiscernible] [00:48:57] iMovie. It’s a piece of cake to use it. And there is Movie Maker which is a PC program. iMovie is of course with the Mac and Final Cut Pro is a Mac. There are definitely more advanced ones – Sony Vegas which is the PC program, Avid, another editing program. And if you get a program, you can YouTube ‘how to edit’, it will show you. If you have a specific questions, tons of YouTube videos on how to use certain things. So, it’s really easy to learn. Yes.
Female Speaker: Will that camera come with that casing device [Indiscernible] [00:49:3]? We have to look for that case?
David Rountree: This one? Came with it.
Female Speaker: That’s how it comes?
David Rountree: Yes, they came with this, and they came with several [Indiscernible] [00:49:37]. So, you can [Indiscernible] [00:49:39] to a… right now it’s an open water swimmer. It attaches to a surfboard and the surfboard goes with the paddle board – goes right along with your open water swimmer and films the entire race – right along with it and just attached right to it. I went rafting last weekend and attached it to the front of the boat. It’s crazy.
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:49:56] straps put it on [Indiscernible] [00:50:00] there is a car mouse, there is a pull mouse…
David Rountree: Yeah, now when you are getting the GoPro, there are two types of setups that come – one is the acquired one like a surfer with a surfer version and one is more for cars. Because people attach to their cars for videos [Indiscernible] [00:50:21]. So, just take the one that is applied to underwater casing. And of course the audio is not great but you don’t really need audio. It’s that different attachment case if you want better audio, the [Indiscernible] [00:50:31] which is where the microphone is. But, you won’t put that case underwater obviously. A lot of swimmers, of course when the camera is on them, they feel like it’s show time, they have to perform and do something. So, they try to do perfect. So, the trick is really film where they’re not trying to do too much. So, you can put the camera in there and say, “We’ve got to film later today” and go ahead and get bored if you want, film so you could see what’s going on. Because if they know the camera is on, they’ll try [Indiscernible] [00:50:56] and then they get in the real world and it doesn’t look anything like that. That can be kind of tricky.
We got someone yesterday said they took it, they attached it to their goggles and they were swimming – he was a coach somewhere. He attached to his goggle strap and was swimming for practice and just getting his kicks, and that’s pretty cool too. What we did, first time I had this last year, I stuck it in the bottom pool and warmed up, pulled my entire team after warm up, we wanted to watch the video, and I said if you guys ever warmed up like this again, warm up is going to change. Because you see them not doing the strokes the right way, you see them playing around, you see all the little things that you don’t really want to see. That’s a great tool. And you watch right on set. You can see the ones that are lazy. [Indiscernible] [00:51:40] Okay. Anymore questions? Yes.
Female Speaker: How big are the files to be emailed?
David Rountree: Depends on whatever you want. These movies come as Quicktime movies. This is a Quicktime here. If you do a [Indiscernible] [00:51:53] on your Quicktime movie, export it to your desktop and that compresses it to a final. It’s only like 4 kilobytes and that can be emailed. So, I’ve taken a movie which is about 10 to 12 minutes in length, compressed it down, emailed it out. But it does take to go to the compression area which is [Indiscernible] [00:52:16] And if you don’t remember how to do that, go on YouTube, they have this really easy. They break it down to [Indiscernible] [00:52:22] I learned a lot about editing. Say, how do I do this, how do I do this on YouTube and there it is. It’s pretty amazing. Yes.
Male Speaker: When that’s underwater, this is a silly question, how do you activate it to record?
David Rountree: You have one button that turns it on; and I’ll turn it on before we go under, and now I have a swimmer when they get down just hit record. It’s one button to get the picture record.
Male Speaker: So, somebody has to physically go down and start. [Indiscernible] [00:52:50] video maybe 10 of my swimmers at a particular practice, probably I can just have them be ready to cycle through while the film is still running.
David Rountree: Yeah, it’ll keep running. Like with us, we had for the big champs, like we first film the first 12 and a half yards, well they got to swim down and turn and come back, so during that, this is dead space on the video – which if you get creative with the ed, you just chop that out, you don’t use it.
Male Speaker: I just want to say that if you have a shallow pool it becomes more susceptible to be moving around. [Indiscernible] [00:53:23] If you have a deeper pool, deeper pool, [Indiscernible] [00:53:28]
David Rountree: Our pool is seven feet all the way around and at seven feet this thing did not move, because there are kids underwater and it’s a big swim meet, then we use [Indiscernible] [00:53:40] we took diving brick and so on to really stabilize it. But as you said in more shallow pools, you may want to find something to keep it. Because if your pool is three and a half feet and your swimmers are swimming pretty aggressive breaststrokes and turns, they are creating a lot of weight coming up, they get those knees up and things like that. It will shift around.
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:53:57] start to four or four and a half and it goes down into a diving area.
David Rountree: It’s got to film whatever your angle is, wherever you put it. You can adjust this angle.
Male Speaker: Let’s say it gets to six feet by halfway down, there is going to be a lot of movement in that first 12 and a half yard…
David Rountree: We are at seven feet and we’ve had some of our bigger college swimmers swim right past it full speed with [Indiscernible] [00:54:22] on, it doesn’t move at seven. But that way in a more shallow, it will create a lot of ripples and will move it around. So, you can get it to play with. That’s the thing with filming, you just got to play.
Male Speaker: What if I put a brick down on it…
David Rountree: But you’ve got to figure out what angle that you want, maybe have a specific spot that you know if I put the camera here, I will get this kind of angle and that’s the way to do it. It’s just a matter of trial and error. The day before I [Indiscernible] [00:54:48] champs, we got to play with this in several spots and figured out the best angle to get it. We decided we stick it right 12 yards [Indiscernible] [00:54:53] all eight lanes and you got to see the start and up until the first stroke. And I knew that after the first stroke I was going to cut out to the dolly angle in the other direction.
Female Speaker: So, you had several cameras?
David Rountree: We had three cameras. And the entire setup for [Indiscernible] [00:55:07] champs, everything we use – cameras, [Indiscernible] [00:55:10] and everything, the entire setup was under $400 for everything. And all of these coaches, they all wanted[Indiscernible] [00:55:19] movies when we’re done and we probably sold 300 DVDs after we’re done. We do this as a fundraiser for skin cancer. That was pretty cool. We raised a lot of money for them. It was really cool but for under $400… and it looks like another great event and the kids will love that because they see this and they get excited because they are like, “Wow, I look like Michael Phelps.” That’s how they film the Olympics. I look like Rebecca Soni out there swimming breaststroke, that same underwater angle because they have that in the Olympics. That’s what they see, so that’s pretty cool. [Indiscernible] [00:55:49] fun questions ahead of each champs was they saw the setup and one of the kids said, “Would you like to hold a record [Indiscernible] [00:55:54] back and forth?” That cost extra.
Female Speaker: That’s a really good idea for fund raising. I teach [Indiscernible] [00:56:02] ice skating arena and everything [Indiscernible] [00:56:08] ice skating competitions, they have these guys with two cameras and they sold our DVDs. Each swimmer or each ice skater [Indiscernible] [00:56:18]
David Rountree: Oh yeah.
Female Speaker: Each three-minute skate. So, that’s a great idea for fund raising for your team, if you can get a swim meet like that.
David Rountree: It really is. It is good. And one other thing, we used.. one of our swimmers now swims with a college and he only had two years of swimming experience. So, we did have the time to tape on him. The college coach said, “We’d like to see some footage.” I can see what he looks like – six foot seven, being a tall kid, we gave him underwater footage and above water footage and we showed a couple of great laps in swimming and showed the different angles, and the coach emailed me back and he says, “You know what, after seeing this, I know what I’m working with and I know how we can make this kid faster. We’d love to have it. Thank you for sending the underwater because it’s the first underwater tape we’ve seen of any kid. All we get are these shaky [Indiscernible] [00:57:04] cams at swim meets and I can’t critique the stroke, I can’t see what I’m working with. I can’t figure out who’s lane one of eight kids and the camera is bouncing up and down, what his stroke really looks like.” Yes.
Male Speaker: Like David said, he was [Indiscernible] [00:57:20] six foot seven. He got down to [Indiscernible] [00:57:22] 21, well 21s and 50 freestyles are… there is a lot of them out there. [Indiscernible] [00:57:27] go after. But because he had the edge of seeing what he was going to work with, the fact that he was brand new to the sport, it made the difference [Indiscernible] [00:57:37] school just because they are… like I said there are a ton of kids out there who can swim 21 in high school but this one [Indiscernible] [00:57:44]
David Rountree: Yeah, that’s what John said, he was big, he goes, “If I didn’t have the underwater, I really wouldn’t know what I’m working with because I can’t see everything he’s doing, I can see only his left arm he’s not catching enough water up front and if we can make that little adjustment, we know we can make him faster.” And he went 20.4 [Indiscernible] [00:58:04] something like that after working. So, it’s huge and it’s easy and it doesn’t have to be those big birds and thing and bring out his giant 200 pound equipment staying up because no one wants to do that. This is easier and it’s fun for the kids and they’ll film for you. Like you said, you have middle school kids, 13 14 year olds, running this stuff and make it look very professional. And they’ve all seen it because it makes them feel like they are big time. And if they do like big time, they want to perform like big time and they want to keep working hard for you. It’s pretty cool.
Male Speaker: It’s 3:33 right now, I know some of you might want to go to another session, but if you don’t want to you can ask David some questions. But I just want to make sure and know that if you need to get going to…
David Rountree: Yes, feel free, come up and look at the equipment if you’d like to. Feel free to ask questions. And I want to put this up here with…
Male Speaker: [Indiscernible] [00:59:00] look at his laptop right here, look at the clarity, this was really worth looking at.