If you have been in this room all morning, it has been a very powerful morning. The big hitters have been in here this morning doing big things. If you have been at the clinic all weekend, you know how powerful this clinic has been; from our opening Councilman lecture on whatever night that was, Wednesday night, when Doug Ingram climbed Mt Everest with us and asked us questions about, “Is it impossible? Or was it just hard?” And things that might have – might have – things do not have to be fun to be fun.
We spent the weekend talking about that. We have talked about things that David Marsh will call intent of coaching. A lot of David’s talk is going to be about the content of coaching; both of those terms were his. So what a perfect finish to this morning to come back to a place where everything matters. Don Swartz just took us out to the edge of reality and back again in a flow state and now we are back to focus on our sport with Coach David Marsh. It is simple, but true, to observe that every place David Marsh coaches, swimmers go faster.
It’s been true for his whole career, it continues to be true. We know he has been on three US Olympic staffs, we know he was an NCAA Coach of the Year. Nine times his teams, Men’s and Women’s at Auburn, as I recall, were the first school to win both men’s and women’s NCAA Division I Championships in the same year. He has since been the CEO and the Director of Team Elite at SwimMAC, Carolina. And he has Olympians, ten of them in the pool that he coaches every day. So with everything that matters, here is a coach who knows about everything- Coach David Marsh, and David, we have a gift for you from ASCA. Thank you.
Thank you, thank you. All right, thank you, hopefully this thing will work here. We can talk off this and I tend to move around a little bit more. Hey but, first off, I didn’t, for some reason, I didn’t know that Doug Ingram would be starting our week here. And it’s interesting because Doug Ingram was actually responsible for kind of the initiation to my even consideration of being a coach, where I was on a national team. It was in 1980, when we boycotted the Olympics, and they took – fortunately it took about 6 people to Hawaii, obviously the three that made the team back then.
And then I was one of the others that didn’t make the team and still got to go on the fun trip to Hawaii. But at the end of the trip to Hawaii, I don’t know when it was, we are in the hotel and I was talking to Doug and he was on the staff. And really –I mean, I did not know him that well, but he just comes out of the blue and he just said – in a real sincere way, he says – he says, “Now David, do you know if you have plans beyond this?” I said, “Well I am not planning on swimming anymore,” because back then you know you didn’t swim anymore. You know you are finished when you finish college.
And he says, “Well be sure you give back to swimming what it has given to you.” And over the years including now, I continue to ponder that because, what I have come to realize is that is basically probably impossible for me to give back as much as the sport has given to me. Because it did so much for me, you know and the real short version is I was a baseball player till 10th grade and got cut from the baseball team. And then I did my brother’s sport, right, so my background wasn’t a traditional background in swimming.
I, also, by the way was not a good student. I did not really care about school. You know, pretty much a class – latchkey kid of those days and did not have kind of any direction, even through college. I did not have a professional direction, but I had a direction of I wanted to be a great swimmer. So when I went from Southwest Miami High School where I ended up being the school record holder. Thank you, in the 100 backstroke, thank you, 58.6, thank you. If Tim Shed is in the room, I beat his school record at the time. So, no short – it was short course yards, buddy.
They, yeah – he has got breaststrokers doing that in practice. But, that was the school record holder at the time. So I did not know when that got, then I went to swimming for Dick Wells and Jim Montrella at Indian river, where I became one of the better swimmers. Then fortunately Eddie took the job at Texas, which opened up Richard Quick to come to Auburn, which opened up a little bit of scholarship for me and – and Richard offered me a scholarship and changed my world as the whole process of swimming had before that.
I didn’t have that on my notes to talk about, but I just think in the context of – especially after hearing last night, I just thought – wanted to give some – especially to some of your coaches, the thought that it maybe one thing you say to one child or even a veteran like I was, a smart alec college graduate like I was at that time. I really had no idea what I was going to do after that point in time, that really initiated my thought, “Yeah, how can I give back?” And literally when Richard said. “Hey, uh, we need a coach for the club team here at Auburn, do you want to – you want to take that on?” And it was about 60 kids from 8 and Unders in these lanes, to I had a couple of Senior National kids in the far lanes.
And I would coach all 60 of them at the same time in one hour. I had to get everything done in one hour and I said, “Yeah, I will do it.” The first day I coached, I liked coaching more than I ever liked swimming myself. So I was hooked, done, deal and never have looked back since. And loving more today than I did back then, because I know how many more mistakes I have made. And I know how many more things I can learn. And this has been a great clinic, wow; this has been a terrific clinic for knowledge and inspiration. And I thought the talks last night, Peter talked about the basketball games.
I was one of the guys who played the basketball games and as a young coach you never know where you’re going to come in contact with the special coaches that influence you. And I remember a lot of those basketball coaches and actually some of those post-5 o’clock talk events that went on well into the night, being some of the most critical times of bonding with what are now great friends in the coaching community. And then Bruce Gemmell talked about the chat I had with him about – I did not realize I had that talk by the way. I did not know I talked about –coaching the winning out of kids -which I think that’s – I still think it is true a lot of times, because it was a flight from Australia. You know if you do not sleep on the flight back from Australia, what happens. You just start babbling, you start not being able to control things. If you cannot sleep, you go into another place and, so I’m sorry Bruce if you are in here that I babbled so much to you. But, we were sitting next to each other, so we had a nice warming talk.
SwimMAC staff here, we have 20 SwimMAC coaches here, and I am so glad that they are here for this clinic in particular because there is so much to be gained during this clinic. When Doug talked about his journey up the mountain and leaving Jimmy’s ashes on top of the mountain. Because Jimmy is Jimmy Flowers and Jimmy is also my best friend in the world. And he died in a mountaineering accident with Doug, when they were climbing the mountain years before that, so that’s part of that connection that was not explained. So listening to that talk was – I actually learned a little bit about my friend Jimmy, my best friend that I did not know. I did not know that mountaineering had that call to the degree it does and Doug explained that very well.
I feel like that is my call to swimming, to help me understand my buddy Jimmy, and ASCA is where Jimmy and I would connect every year for about 20 years. And we maintained our friendship much through the experience of the different ASCA clinics. But I have been listening to the clinic quite a bit, I kind of changed my talk. Because last year I spoke, I talked about, intent versus content. I’m going to talk about intent versus content and I feel like this clinic has been much more intent talking about emphasis than content.
So I may try to go backwards into content a little bit and kind of give you – a kind of how I think about designing a practice and I have four chunks I want to talk of kind of more intent. And then we can wrap the thing up, all right. This is my room, when I am changing my talk, that’s grease markers on the mirror and a lot of scattered papers with my various thoughts. That is really kind of representative of my brain. I am pretty radically ADD and I’m left-handed and I have got all the things going for me that should, well they cause me to kind of operate the way I do.
Let’s go right after, probably one of the favorite sets of the IM guys. And I had a really good IM group this summer and still have a good IM group coming back. But this is one of the sets that we did that they really liked. And it was a set that I think at the end of it they were –several of the guys were right at the – the 4, it would have been around the 4 30 something, 4 30 low range in the last four IM and some of the ladies were under 5 minutes on the last IM. Now as I anticipated, this is you know and I appreciate that you take pictures of that kind of stuff and write it down, that kind of thing.
However that almost tells you nothing about this set, honestly this – this set is, that’s damn boring to me right there. I mean that’s boring, let me walk you through the real set a little bit more with adjustments because this is how I coach. And so if you are here to learn something from me, this is how that scatter brain thing in the office coaches. And you know I will bring you to my grease board here in a few more minutes and you will understand even more how I coach. But the 8 times 25 flys, those were 4 cruise and then and they stop in the middle of the pool.
And then with 4, they go 15 meters underwater, full speed and then go easy on top. They could go drill if they want to on top because they are really setting up the whole set and not worried about them being fantastic on the first little bit of butterfly. It is really just setting up them emotionally and trying to mimic – mimic and going through an IM. The 200 free IM as the Ryan’s knee was hurting, so he pulled during that set. Tyler, Ty, and Camille all did the last 50 of the free IM Butterfly just to kind of raise their level of effort earlier because they are more 4 IM oriented, so we kind of got them into the set a little bit, a little bit sooner.
Marko, who is an Olympian from Macedonia, where they only have two pools in the whole country, his job of the whole set – he went to Wingate, he was a national champion swimmer of Wingate– but he is training with us this summer. His job on the set was a simple instruction: You beat Tyler and Ryan on everything until you can’t beat them. So his job was to start at the first 25 fly before the whole set began and he is rabbit of the set. Now Tyler and Ryan and those guys didn’t know that I told Marko that.
So they were like, “What the hell?” you know? But that was sort of a setup of the workout and Marko lasted for quite a while before he was overtaken. But the point was – so for two things, so this is an example of different kids you have in your group. So it is kids that are going third and fourth in the lane every day, you got to get them out of that. So put them in the role of, “You know what? Just win something.” And I have done this many times, different kids in my career, it is like, “You have got to win something today. And you have to let me see when you win it, so it is obvious, we do not care if it is the warm-up. We do not care if it’s the first 100 of a descending 10 x 100 set and you win it and you beat everybody in the group.” But that kind of changes their thinking a little bit. So this 200, what has happened here? Okay, on the 200 free IM, the turns were to be fast and they were to glide out beyond the flags, before they did any kicking of every wall. So often times they will come up and just kicking right away. So just a little bit of one more thing is added into it. The 4x100s backstroke after that were three pull, then one swim- although several of the guys, including Ryan, did again because of the knee a little bit trying to build the strength up and the shoulders heated.
They did 8 x 33 on the 50 at the same time, so they were actually – and 8 x 33s were the strap only, the pulling here was with a buoy and a strap. So the 8 33 is for a strap and much higher tempo. So the 8 x 33s, even though they are shorter, the 4 x 100s were much harder. That was the heart rate went way to ride up on that, because when the strap only, you know Elizabeth Beisel stuff. I think that – that’s one of the better ways to get the tempo up to kind of mimic that dance and backstroke that if you do it right with a high tempo. It’s a great way to set up their technique.
All right 400 IMs, when do we do those, okay we went underwater on fly, basically as far as they could. Most of them, they had to go at least 15 meters and far as and again it was fast kick fly. Then they kicked full speed through the exchange. So from fly to back, they kicked to keep speed, they don’t just stop and change stroke and flop over in the back. And then move from breast to free and just you know come up and pop up and so easy free. The transitions were the fast part and then the back to breast turn was supposed to be good.
Cathleen and Nora, Katy, Mily and Chadwick- he was a Missouri swimmer who came for the summer from college- but, that was the main part of their sets. So they were raising their heart rates right there, so their 400 IMs were, I wanted them to go I told them 90% during those 400 IMs, because they are more 200 IMers and that’s more of a sweet spot for them. And you know everybody loves 100 IMs and you can’t do enough of those, right? See if anything else just mix here, trying to think through the adjustments here.
Okay 8 x 50s breast strokes, lots of adjustments here. They descended by sets of 2 descending 1 to 3, so it was basically two in a row, descending down 1 to 3 and then the last two were drill. So we are in the breaststrokes, so if breaststrokes is descending down, so understand that – it looks like 8 50s is really is bringing it down by efforts of two. Stroke count was to stay the exact same as they descended their times, they couldn’t go up on their stroke count and they were to go faster. And then last two was real because we were setting up for the 2 x 200 IMs, so this set is really kind of a crescendo set to a big finish.
And one of the IMs, 2 x 200 IMs to be kind of a feature there. Along during the set, there were some swimmers as you can imagine, like Camille was doing 25 fly, 25 free and all the 50s breast. And actually I am sorry, 25 fly 25 breasts because I can’t watch her breaststroke. She doesn’t make the interval. She does a whole lot of breast stroke. You know she is a good IMer; she is not very fast in practice at it. And then like Micah, it was on those – I am sorry, not Micah, no like Joe and Clary because I wanted them to go a fast breast stroke piece.
I really didn’t want them to practice slow breast stroke this year, because really the only time they are going breast stroke in an IM so they need to be at that speed or faster. There is no need to go long, slow breast stroke and even descend for them. So they did all of them all 25 free, 25 breast. And then the 2×200 IMs, the first one was a personal best, plus 20 for the ladies and plus 22 for the guys and second one was faster. But done in reverse stroke order, so whatever the fourth best stroke was; that was supposed to increase their time on it. The fourth, and then the third stroke, and then the second stroke.
They are really supposed to cruise their primary stroke in that particular IM. Again kind of setting up for the 4 IM so just you know that patience and putting a little more into that fourth stroke which in IM were the obvious things to do. 400s free at 1:30 were 400s free and 130. And then we did that and then they did a 400 IM really to set up the 400 IM fast at the end of the set. So that is the set, so if wrote that down walk the answer, well there is a set you can do. The thing that makes the difference I believe is all the adjustments that happen with that.
And you can imagine those are all – most of those are national team or national junior team swimmers that are on the right side, so adjusting them also tells them that I have designed a set for them. So it’s not like when they come, it’s like, “Oh here is the big boring set.” It’s like, “No, we have taken considerations and subgroups.” Sometimes it’s groups of 3 or 4 and you don’t see any swimmers on this by the way. They are in other lanes doing other things, they didn’t do this set. Although there are times when I would do a set and I just match up those intervals or something, they could do is they all could be going in the same interval.
But that wasn’t this particular set. Okay alright this comes from generally a season plan that we started with Team Elite and again I should probably say this season plan is set up for elite athletes and a full year of focus. I think the giant advantage of the pros have when we got out to Irvine this summer was that they had a full year to get ready. They did not have a college season in between to be concerned with. They did not have any reason to chop things up. The challenge was a full year is too long, there is – I don’t know of any swimmers who can go like a full year without something else with a priority emphasis.
So we took you know Nationals in December, we swam pretty well there in short course and I like being in short course in the fall. That short course focus and then we took our meet, the Charlotte Grand Prix meet, and we made a little emphasis on that for a couple of days and made that a little bit of a priority meet, as well. And we were going to go to Brazil for a big Pro Meet, but that was cancelled. And that kind of actually – I talked to Bob Bowman about that. That kind of messed this up quite a bit actually, because that was going to a time when we were going to kind of jump into it a little bit emotionally there and have something that has some meat on the bones.
But as you know, basically as you see the phase is probably what you guys had to want to look at the most. So we went through different training phases and I can assure you there isn’t one of those phases we did completely that. You know I know there was a window of time where, I think it’s around Christmas, where they took a lot longer to get going than I anticipated as in attending practices as in trying as hard as they should trying.
So we just lengthen the box, you know you just kind of do a little bit more of the work they need to get in if we felt like they needed to. To some degree we would even keep the box bigger for some of the athletes and move the other ones on a little bit. And a way we do that maybe is by say a Cathleen Baker who is young and still pays good attention. She is – she went to the sprint group more often, you know we are ready to – when they have already done an aerobic kind of work to have her kind of ready and she is younger anyway, so a little extra work wouldn’t hurt her. Okay, this is probably where I can kind of spend the most time and I would say the weekly schedule for me is really key to the way I think.
I do like, I know Coach Salo was talking earlier about something hard every day. I actually like pressing really deep and hard and recovering really well. Pressing and recovering, pressing and recovering and the deeper you can get them to press, the more chance you have for that giant improvement. So did you guys read that at all? So let me give you the framework of this, so if you look at this the thing I would like you to see is the level 3-4, level 9-10, level 5 – that’s the level of exertion for the workout. With the 9,10, I want them crawling out of the pool.
I want them completely exhausted; I don’t want to save anything for the next session. The 10 is deep, go for it, have your legs trembling when you leave the pool. And there are times when we get – we have 9 and 10 practice where they do not get the 9 and 10 during the set I have designed or the – so we do more. And we will come back at it and we will hit three more of something full speed or the vertical kick, till they can’t kick or they will you know do a rope – a couple of ropes and then drop and do some sprints off of that. But they do something to push them to that effort we need.
Wednesday, the sprinters didn’t swim, you see it’s only middle distance in the afternoon. We swam 33 meters more than any other distance which that the Queens University of Charlotte, we have a 33 meter pool. And we can either bring it in to 25 meters, 25 yards. The first time I have ever done 33 meters and I talked to Bob Groseth about that and he was like, “Yeah, I mean back in the day, a lot of people would train 33 meters and I love it, I love that distance,” because its long enough they get into that sort of long course stroke, but short enough to where they didn’t lose their technique and it kind of kept them attention.
For me, it was good because it kind of maybe reinvent intervals. We had to kind of figure out intervals as we are designing sets. But a lot of the work I do and especially with the pros, we will do 20 seconds rest, 30 seconds rest and a lot of times, I don’t need to have an interval. I just go till your heart gets below 120, you know? Things like that, kick for 20 seconds- vertical kick. That is the rest interval, so things like that rather than always looking at the clock. You are on the clock, you are on the clock. I think it’s really good to let them kind of control their, you know, their environment every now and then.
Generally through my whole career Monday has been a chill day. So you heard Gregg talk about he hits the hammer on Monday morning. I am the opposite, I like them coming in and experiencing Monday morning emotionally, kind of physically, a little bit more relaxed and get into the strokes, do a little technical work, not be afraid of that morning. And kind of make that a really positive atmosphere. The bottom here, the sprinters will lift and then do power and power is some of that really short blast stuff. Generally when I am talking about power, for the most part it’s 25’s or less.
Often it’s in race environments, whether they are lined up one against the other. And you are trying to get to the wall as fast as you can. Most of the middle-distance guys will do that power work with the sprinters. So middle-distance will swim for about an hour and they will join the sprinters for the power work. So they will get kind of the little aerobic piece, then they will come in with the sprinters. And of course, Davis Tarwater and Ryan, those guys, they all love beating Cullen and the guys that think they are sprinters on those real short little burst type things.
In this day here, this 6-7, the 3-4 should not rock them too much. They should really come in Tuesday morning and give a very big effort on that Tuesday morning. Be pretty fresh and that’s generally one that we will go some kind of quality challenge and this is kind of middle to late season, this isn’t early season to be a lot more lower numbers for those early season. This is the middle part of the year. And you can see the afternoon, we kind of do a lot of filling in, review video. So ideally on Wednesday, they’re thinking about – while either they have the day off or at least the morning off.
You can see it’s unique here, Thursday to me is a bit of reset again. I’m right back at it. Friday basically put in a quality session again. And Saturday is generally always reserve for kind of a rainbow set, you know start with a little bit lighter and end up with something real big at the end and usually very customized. Here is an adjusted version of this, so this was the early template of what we are going to do. And then as we had to break out into more groups, this morphed into this which for the middle group is the middle distance AM and PM.
So they would hit aerobic mix, quality kick and this is something we showed them too. We wanted them to know, okay guys, “You got come in Tuesday ready to go.” And does that make sense? And Moss Creek is long course outdoors, which is important to us because we – we swim mostly indoors and with having Nationals and Pan Pacs outdoors. We had to take advantage of any outdoor practices we could to get used to the environment of outdoor swimming. But we only swim in the morning, so that was an ideal because we never had the sun way up in our face and actually ended up having a couple of guys hit lane lines at the meet, as usual.
Sunday, you see recovery. Generally Friday afternoons, most of the guys will do Pilates and then again, this is the Elite guys. In the Super Sprint, where guys that were – that had broken out into a very small group of guys that just really focused on more of the 50 as a priority, a little bit of 100. And actually that was a group that Mark Webber was in and he dropped from 23.1 to 22.1, probably the biggest drop in the country this year. They only did singles, the kind of traditional sprint which would be more of the 100s of strokes, so for that middle kind of group there.
Bob is really going to emphasize there. Yeah, the point is I want to make here is we even adjusted their weekly calendar. When we saw the kind of the personality of the group, we had to – here is part of what happened was the middle distance sprinters – like the middle distance guys, you know started getting a little more uncomfortable if the sprinter is not as much. And we knew the 50 guys needed to do way less than the other guys. So if I kept the super short sprinters in with the general group, I would coach to the general group a little bit more and these guys would get hurt by that. So anyway breaking them out helped cause that to happen and I have got lots of great coaches. So we are able to do that you know break out more in groups. All right, what’s next? Okay here we go, just some practices.
This would be a 2 or 3 set, so that is really nothing too exciting. And this is Peter’s handwriting; this is the best handwriting it’s going to be. It’s going to start getting worse when it’s my handwriting. But you can see there even with these details, the Kayak drill and that’s where you have the kick board and you work the kick board on both sides to open yourself up, even within this a little bit of fast stuff. Okay here is my handwriting. Okay so this is actually a really hard kick set, so it’s a 200 with their brain turned off and then they come back and do literally just a 100. I will read through this, but they do 100 where they go 10 seconds to kick against the wall. It’s kind of a Gregg Troy thing where you are holding a streamline, you kick against the wall in a streamline on your back. And then as soon as that’s over, you go right into 15 meters, body dolphin underwater fish kick. Fish kick is an all out kick; I am looking for them to kick and exaggerate how big they are kicking. So, that is not only the emphasis. Then in 25 meters, they would do a 10-second kick against the bottom. So, they go down to the bottom and kick and try to push the bottom to China. Now, Dax and Dion, because they are 6 foot 7, they would have to go a little further because the pool was not deep enough for them. So they had to go 35 meters to get that in. Now I do not know why it says mystery 10 meters. Oh, because I think they were asking me about this. I said, “Do what you want during the extra 10 meters, I don’t care, just get to the main thing.” So 10 against the bottom and then sprint kick from the bottom up, into add the arms into the surface, and then 5 kicks.
And then you get up and out at the wall and hip flexor stretch for a minute, which was basically done on a plank. And they don’t like the sound of the plank as much as the hip flexor stretch, so we call it a stretch rather than a plank. And then they dive 25, body dolphin kick underwater full speed at the 25 mark, vertical kick for 30 seconds and the last 10 seconds, that’s straight up, straight arms, head out. And vertical kicking, by the way, I kind of like when we are done with that. So this is one position. The other position is elbows out and completely in line with the shoulders and the posture is locked up here.
So it’s not this kind of kicking. Oh you can see my hands you know, no that’s not. So either here, here underwater, whatever that is the easy way or here. And that’s the only three positions for vertical thinking for SwimMAC athletes. Coaches, got it? Alright, let’s see and then 25 over kick swim to tie it all together. That is actually a really hard set and that would probably a 7 or 8. It will be pretty serious set, usually this thing we would do about 8 times through. The 200 brain off would be just one time; that is just to kind of get them going for the set. They would go back through those.
And this would probably on one to one work to rest ratio and it would be done in little pieces. But then it would be a whole other minute after a 100 kick was over. Alright, this would be a little bit more aerobic set, but with the guys that I have I try to keep kick involved in all the kind of different stuff we do. So this would be you know 2 sets to 3 x 200s and then probably the thing here you just see is that they throw in some fast kicking somewhere in here at different times. AF plus RAP, yeah, I think it means on this one was “as far and rhythmic as possible”. I think that is the acronym for what I had in mind there.
I think it is “as fast” right? I have an exclamation point. The exclamation point is always just all-out, that’s something, that’s just fast. All right, here is another one; sorry I cannot see this one. I will talk through this one, so this is – who is this one. This is a breaststroke kind of – this will be a Micah Lawrence set. This will be a classic kind of Micah Lawrence set, she would like. So 300 free IM, during that free IM, the breast stroke is 2 down 2 up for 50 fast. And then swim two rounds of 5 to 6 cycles, the 6th then go into 6x50s breast, 25 free kick and then breast stroke, 25 free kick with a breast stroke pull.
And then at the 25 mark, you would go three cycles under water full speed. So, down just below the water. It’s not pull outs, it’s three small strokes like Barrowman 2 down 2 up stroke. So they do the down, keeping the hands up top, popping their line, that’s the big deal. You can’t be mushy on this, when you are going full speed and when you do underwater breast stroke, you ought to be going full speed. So it ought to be bam, bam! It shouldn’t be, “oh oh”, that’s not going to help them be a better breaststroker. Sharp stuff when they do the underwater breaststroke. Or I would say, don’t do it.
And then they go into 2 for the remainder of the distance they have, they would do a 2 count wide breast stroke, that’s what that two thing is. 3 x 100 breaststroke descend, 1 to 3 keep count equal. And once again they are just trying to hold the same stroke count and really length the line on 1:50 and then 3x100s, 75 free, 25 breast all out. And stay high, so it was not just go all out. It was also swimming as little waters you could. Because I like, I talked to them about swimming in the top four inches of the water as much as they can.
Whenever I get a chance to swim in a pool that has that 0 entry, we go swim in that 0 entry pool and they would have to navigate are knees and their pulls to stay in that really high that top layer of the water, especially for breaststrokers. And I think that’s the way – the breaststrokers are now are not going down and up a whole lot. They are going forward, there is a little bit of a wave in it, but it’s a very shallow wave, it’s not a big – it’s a not undulating wave anymore. All right, that’s interesting and then you know on this set if you look at the right side, there is 6x300s back stroke.
So somebody – and that was probably Tyler Clary or somebody else that was afraid of doing that long of a set. And that is Dax holding the board up. Jeremy Knowles special: this is a set many people have done. But I will say when, this is probably a month after maybe Tyler and Rhyme were there, and when they finished this set… this doesn’t look very intimidating does it? It’s a bunch of 50s on 1:10. This has the hardest set, this is what I’ve tweeted out afterwards, “the hardest set I’ve ever done.” That was their comment about it, but they did it really hard.
So their job was to go 4 non-fly all out and I didn’t care what stroke they did, but they had to be all out and then – they get out and dive each one. Long course meters dive every 50. Then four fly, four choice, four fly, four choice. And really the key to the set was, we lined them up in races. So the reason their backs were purple at the end of the workout was that they had, they were held accountable, we only get two or three long course lanes in the pool we use for the Elite guys.
But that day we had 3, so we were able to race 3 at a time. I think Tim Phillips and Tyler and Ryan were racing on fly there. And they tore it up; this was a great set. And at the same time, we had another group that can’t handle that. The sprinters or guys that couldn’t handle that would go this adjustment on the side. This group that would go towards the end, so the first group didn’t experience them on the wall. So they would get to the wall and they would gone by the time those guys would get in and we are doing the wimpier version of the set.
But we only had three lanes, so I couldn’t spread them out to the other sides. So a cool set – I mean you do 50s from a dive and at about 1:10 and you do a good amount of a fly, you will crush them. It’s a great killer set and just the athleticism of getting out at everyone. And oh, and the goal is to hold 200 pace. The goal is to be at 200 pace and all those dive 25s, so it’s probably solid. And here is the big IM set and really I won’t necessarily go through this. This is basically broken 400 IMs, a little bit later in the season. So how they are broken was a 50 fly and a minute dive and then 100 fly/back, back/breast.
So they got a little more rest and they were getting at times. And what we can look at is on the right side here, it says race feel. So the first round, they just swim like they are going to feel in the race. So fly is easy, back is build and breast is go a little stronger, pretty strong but you use your legs. The second round is race strategy, okay? So for example, Tyler has to always go out faster, he has to use his backstroke to have any chance because it doesn’t have a good breaststroke, especially with the guys he’s racing that have big breaststrokes. And in that, his strategy was he has to go real solid on the backstroke and the next one is faster than your race time.
So they got more rest, so they should be able to go faster than their time. I don’t know what, yeah I have had some symbols. I did some adjustments, like ask Kathleen Baker, I adjusted for some reason probably to bring it down to 400 free. Round 4 and 5 are 200s broken, so this is a big broken set. This is probably 8 to 10 weeks out of Irvine, you know something like that. So it was a pretty solid set and they were hurting pretty good. This is a set we did with that Allan Fall, one of our coaches did. We did together when I was coaching the high school kids, the year after the last Olympics with Alan and we would do this critical speed set a lot.
And that’s kind of a version of Bill Sweetenham’s critical speed set. But basically the numbers are here, this is – you can write this stuff down, that is kind of fun. Take their goal time and I use their goal time – especially the younger kids, they use their goal time rather than best time. In fact, I think you should always use goal time because like Josh Snyder said one time, when he first came to Charlotte. We are talking about, like, his results from the last weekend and I said, “Well what’s your time in a 100 fly? What is your best time in the fly? So he says, “Well that’s my old time, so that is not my best time, it is my old time.” And just that thinking, that is the kind of thing I was trying to talk to Bruce Gemmell about, that thinking of you know if you’ve gone this time and then you’ve grown or ate food or rested or worked out a little bit or worked out a lot of bit, you are probably better than you were at that time with that time.
So the best time is what’s that? That’s “Old Time”. So I am with Josh, “Old Time”, so I set like this, do goal time, not best time. And so we set up goal time divided by two, add 10 seconds equals and then multiply two for the target time you were to hit. So for example, a 1:50.00 200 long course freestyle would be 55. Well then go 2:10, a 2:10 maybe a 200 backstroke would need to hold 2:30 on that. So pretty solid times, but then maybe the way I like to do it and a set, I can always make adjustments to it. Here is how when I am done in this priority, the first – the first priority is make the time. So if you can’t make the time and at that point Ryan was not in very good shape yet. So I think his time was like 2:04 long course; he was not making that. So he never got the priority 2, 3 and 4.
He just had to live in the first priority. But if you make the time, which a lot of people were then the second one is now even split. If you are even splitting, now take less strokes and if you are making that now negative split bigger. So that turns it into the set I think, then you are taking this nice aerobic set that is probably a – we would just say 6 or 7, say a 6 or 7 or for the after one, 7 or 8, you can look yeah. So 7-8, you look at that and you can really turn it into something that can move you forward. And the set was set up in this and we didn’t do it straight through, it’s 2 100s on 1:30 smooth and then 3 – the 3x200s we did and if your critical speed is below 2:50 and then you go on to 2:40 interval. If it’s above 2:20, then we are going to 3 minute intervals. So that would be two groups, that’s probably because we didn’t have enough lanes to just set everybody at their individual interval. And then 4x50s and then 4x50s – oh yeah, this is interesting too. So after that, we do 4x50s for whatever number of cycles I told them to individually. Some would do 4 cycles, some would do 10 cycles. I knew some of them wouldn’t give 10 cycles, so I don’t ask them to do 10 cycles. I will set them up to lose, because that’s not the main part of the set.
The main part of the set is the 200s, but some of them can handle more work. To some of them that need more work like Kathleen and the younger kids or Tyler, the 4IMers- they would do more stroke cycles. So 4x50s at x number of strokes, you know whatever you are giving at top speed and then go easy the rest of the way for 4x50s. So that was – that was our swimming, it wasn’t easy swimming. It was something that was individualized, they created the set to where I wanted to this big set that become – that become like a group set. Okay, we got quarter past, so I’ve got a little bit of intent stuff I was going to go to, but anything on the workout stuff before I go to kind of the bigger stuff? (Audience question) The power sets are pretty similar the time, yeah. But they are not – the measured sets are Pam, coach Pam wanted that’s a great, the resistance set that I have stole from her a couple of times. And that is a tested thing and recorded.
The sets that we are generally doing with the pros is more of a – well I have set up the set with the pros so that they are willing to give 100%. So I keep it pretty safe on the power days, because I don’t want them to be afraid of it at all. I want to go fully into it, 100%, now one thing they all do, too, is they all do other strokes. So whenever whatever we sprint, we will do sometimes all four strokes, definitely. Usually they are second best or even third best as part of the power. Because I really believe you know you want to work the explosive power of all four strokes, yeah. The rainbow is basically is the color charts– and I don’t use color charts, but the concept of color charts, where you go through and hit each level to where your purple hopefully by the time we send you home and you are taking the lane lines out.
Audience: For the Elite IM set, I really like that but um, you said you said you had different people doing different things. Taking that into account for team that works out of a six lane pool, 6-7 people in the lane. How would you manage that in that situation, trying to get everyone to do an individual thing?
David Marsh: So he is asking about it in a crowded pool like most of you deal with, well how do you do with – well, so that’s the point of what I am trying to talk to you about. Like you do it – or you should do it all the time. So most of the sets we are doing are in 2 or 3 long course lanes and I have six or seven elite swimmers in those lanes. So like I was saying in the one set where there – we are doing the 50s, I made sure the first group and I think they are maybe going 5 behind. So that they would finish before the second group came in, so I really created two groups within that 1:10 interval to where they did not see each other. And culturally, in the workout, it didn’t become this, “You guys are doing the pansy set while we are kicking our butts and we are turning purple”, right? And I didn’t need the sprinters to do the nasty set. I needed them to do what they needed to do. They don’t need to do what the other guys don’t need to do. And so in the bigger picture with IM, I think you can write an IM set and the ones that are ready for – like you are going to free IM work, you can – like I did with Camille, I said you guys do fly on the end. So it’s not really free IM for them, it’s – it’s a fly at the back side, I think I am losing my voice.
[audience member]: Why do you have ropes put in?
[Marsh]: That’s a great question. Why do I have ropes put in, where I have been and really all the pools we have? Because when I was at the Pan Ams, I was a little more inquisitive when I was younger, I should stay more inquisitive. But I asked on one trip this Pan Am games in ‘05 maybe; I asked Dick Shoulberg and “”, “What is one thing you wouldn’t give up on your program?” Both of them said ropes, so we put ropes up where we are. Just getting them to climb ropes is the next challenge, they like climbing ropes- if you follow SwimMAC Elite on Twitter, there is really cool pictures as well. That’s only the first time they go up the rope; you know they never show the fourth time up the rope, where their hands are like this and they are looking like scared children going up the rope. So it’s one of those things. Okay anything else on the workout, so that I can go into more of my other stuff?
[Marsh]: Okay great question. The question is how do I differentiate in the workout for, you know, different people? And I don’t do everybody; I do groups of people generally. What I found- and when I was coaching some of these pools, like this grease board right here is real small and that doesn’t work for me- I need a full size grease board. I do not coach as well with a small grease board because I need the right stuff all over the place to get the things I need to get. So the answer to it is that it is more in chunks. So it is like 4-5 people here, 4-5 people there, and a lot of times it is because of the way I tend to coach, we do probably a little bit less yardage. I have to keep the rest down a little bit more if they are going to get the same amount of aerobic robust aerobic effort. The first set I showed us is about a 2500 IM set, that’s the sweet spot of a set for me. I like a 2500 set, I think you can keep their attention, they will give the effort. They – every now and then, we will go 3500 to 4000 set, but not very often. I do think some of the younger kids need to go those 3 to 4000 chunk sets in order to get that full aerobic capacity, they need at that age.
And yeah, that’s right, John wanted me to talk about race pace training. Race pace training, yes do a lot of it, absolutely way into it. Yes so, we hit race speeds often, then like you saw on my critical speed set, then go under water better, then take less strokes at race speed. And then build within and still hit race speed and then go to a foot touch and then do it through a turn. One of the best sets we’ve done for that is for the sprinters is like that we break, we do six rounds of broken 100s and they will go in different ways. But one of them is 30 meters and then 40 meters and 30 meters. And the key part is they are actually working through the turn with an accountable time. And those kind of broken 100s allow them do their whole 100 experience rather than wall the wall. A lot of times we forget about that; we were getting our butts kicked in Pan Pacs by lot of those Japanese swimmers who had great walls. Little bitty guys, little bitty girls, fantastic walls. And I think to some degree our culture tends to be wall to wall intervals, wall to wall lot of things. So I think one of the things, we want to keep in mind is developing some of us through walls. And that’s what we are on now. Okay, as Bill Boomer talked about during his collaboration talk with Matt Kredich, short-course is different than long course period.
Short course is an underwater race, short course is a turn race, it’s reset every wall. That is one of the other advantages I think that I had coaching pros with a long course intention all year. We used short course to help long course, but short course was never a priority to us. Even though I probably I train 60-70% short course. So I love short course training because it keeps your quality up a little. I mean, you maintain your stroke technique better.
Okay I am going to go onto some of my other less exciting stuff. Okay, so four chunks, can I share four chunks? So if – oh, you know we didn’t get in here: our Everything Matters slide. So my Everything Matters slide, which is not on here, it should come up right now. It kind of has all these words that you know that matter. Well, in thinking about sharing it with you, I am going to give you four chunks that I think are important within the everything and then maybe we will do a little bit of everything at the end for fun. Because I was going to tell you about some swimmers that this is what they are good at, this is what they are not so good at and give you that. “Taking the harder path,” let me get my notes on that. Okay, yeah this came to mind because Camille Adams, when we were over Pan Pacs, she is doing a set with one of the other groups and then you know, with the national teams it is great when you kind of have them move around in groups a little bit and a little bit more experience.
And she has done like a big set and I really didn’t intend for it to big set that day. I just kind of wanted to get a swim in and just add it up with some – some of the girls in the other group because we had mostly smelly boys in the group where I was coaching. So I said, “Go swim with the girls today and you know, kind of enjoy that.” And I said, “Well why did you choose that set?” Because that’s probably a little bit more and you probably pushed the edge of what I would want you to do today.” She says, “Well, David, you know you said one of the first weeks I got to Charlotte,” and she is not even full time there, “You said, ‘Always choose the harder path.’” And I said, “Okay, that’s cool,” you know? And I think there is one thing you can teach, preach, compel to the people you work with is to choose to take the harder path because humans don’t want to take the harder path. Humans want to take the more comfortable path generally. They want to take the elevator instead of the stairs, right?
We have this stainless steel apparatus; it is in our pools. I don’t know if you guys have them, too. But they have two rails that go down in the water, they have little things that go up and I see some people using it. But swimmers never use it; they better not use it until taper. That is called the Taper Ladder. Okay, that’s all it is. You only use it when you are tapered, period. And then actually it’s kind of funny because then you got to kind of remind them to use it. They pop out of the water all the time. But it’s just a little thing that and I’ve done that in my whole career, but it’s just one of those things where taking the harder path is – and pressing yourself out – rather than using ladders. Having them go places they have never gone. I think that has a lot to do with your atmosphere. Are they safe to go places they have not gone? If they go in a workout where they have never gone and they fail and they go to the edge and they push, what are you going to do about that? Are you going to say, we didn’t make the last three intervals and you know they are going to take that – or are you going to say well you are in deep right there. And that’s the real important part of the atmosphere you have at your pool. Is it safe to kind of do the things they need to do, the culture of your group of course. I think you have to be aware of the crabs, I mean it doesn’t take well one or two strong personalities in a group of 25 or 30 to pull down the group. And you have got to be careful and manage the crabs in there.
Because we humans are crabs by nature, we want safety and look like me, and go on the intervals I’m going on. Don’t ask coach for faster intervals or don’t stay after practice, you’ll make me look bad. I think that’s the important part of that culture of teaching them to take the harder part. “Be honest in examination,” I think right now into the season moving into the next season. If they didn’t take time at the end of the season to really examine the last season, I don’t know if you get as deep a hard effort in resetting the next year. I think they had to do a deep examination and give them questionnaires to let them contemplate. You can have them write you a summary of their thoughts. So that was the kind of things that ideally if they write in their handwriting, it seemed better. But at least send you an e-mail of their thoughts to say, so you can kind of come to that understanding and then you will know that they are maybe more ready for that deeper, deeper effort. And thinking about swimming, especially coming through until you get really specialized, it’s about a competition start to finish, it’s not about one event.
Most swimmers, and parents especially, want to think about their one event. Their “Triple A” event, my “Sectional cut” event, my Junior National event. It’s like, “No, it is about a swimming meet.” It’s about being prepared for a three-day, 4-day, 5-day meet at the end of the year. So as you are doing training sessions, you remind them that this is not just for your one event, this is for the entire meet. So, take the harder path. When you are given a choice to enter meets, you know enter the harder events when you have a choice. You know enter that 400 IM, enter that 200 fly. You know, when I used to have the entire team do the 200 fly at one of our fall meets, all the sprinters, all the everybody and there was some freaking slow times. But they all did it and especially the 200 flyers and 400 IMers and the distance guys, they loved it, they absolutely loved it. And it was their little moment to get the giggle. Now I did not say is when the sprinters are scoring all the points, then we have as much of a giggle there. It was like, “Okay, go sprinters, go get us a ring.” The creating struggle, so one of the precepts I have kind of gone by is you know three or four times a year, I like to give them a set they are not likely to make. And I got one Haley Piersol story. Ralph Crocker gave her, god bless his soul, Ralph Crocker gave her 6x500s the first one they got is first one was on 5:10, this is a short course: 5:10, 5:00, 5:10, 5:05, 5:00, 4:55 and 4:50 were the intervals on these 500s.
This is a set she wasn’t supposed to make, she ate it up, made it, the last one was 4:41. I mean she just made it, I mean it was nuts. Like Cullen’s set for him -that he has never made it yet- is 3x 50s, 21.5 or faster at short course on 2 minutes, 3 on 1:30 and 3 on 1 min, all have to be 21.5 or faster from a push. So that’s kind of his challenge, I think he has never made it yet. If he wins in Rio, it probably means he made that set. Cesar Cielo, for him, it meant, he wanted to break the – the Auburn team record in the 15 meter sprint off the blocks. So he didn’t get it, Dean Hutchinson had it for a long time, because he had a great, great dive. Mike Simpson sat there and watched him one day do a 15 meters race off of the beeper into the 15 meter pad on the wall, a 144 times. He did 144 x 15 meters sprints. I wonder why he is the best in the world. And then there is the other side of it. Tyler Clary in Pan Pac warms up and I hadn’t known him that well and – and I think he is still living like he is 18 at the meets. He is warming up with like 3x50s hard of each stroke warm up for 4 IM. I am like, “You are doing the race right now, can you save a little bit of this for the meet?” And so, I would have to kind of trick him into yeah, I will do it 25 easy and then go into the race pace. And I didn’t want to tell him not to do it, because that’s what he traditionally did. So I want you to get the same distance, but let’s change the pace and do it really once –we are going to – getting in to that wall, so let’s just adjust it that way.
Don’t tell him, hope he didn’t listen to this I still need to fake him along. The – and sometimes it’s the quiet things. Okay on the right side, this is at Pan Pacs, this is the last day of Pan Pacs and this is about an hour and 15 minutes before the meet. Nobody wants to warm up; the people don’t want to get in the water. This is Kathleen Baker in the pool by herself and nobody else in the entire pool. She is 17, she is eager, she is hungry; hopefully she will always be that way if the crabs do not get to her. On the left, we are at the training camp and this is kind of striking to me, that is why I took the picture. We are leaving the pool, it’s probably 9 o’clock at night, and everybody is gone except maybe the trainers and Bruce I think was still there. But this is the training pool and this is only person left in the pool and she is doing her stretching after practice. Who is that? Katie Ledecky, yeah. So note – and again it’s not always what you do, it’s those extra moments, those quiet moments that make a difference. All right, let me move here. Grounded in principles. Does everybody use snorkels when they practice?
It used to be technology, now it’s standard. It should not be technology anymore; this should be a grounded principle now and not a new technology, okay. I have got to tell you about this story. So I am helping out the LumaLanes develop their product over there and there is a giveaway at the end of this. We are going to do it in here so there is a little giveaway for the iPad Mini if you signed up. But I went in and they brought the technology in, we are playing with the paste your lanes in the bottom. And this was what’s holding the weights down, right? And I was fascinated with this. I was like, “Wait, what can we do with that?” and we take – and it’s a little weighted thing and it probably weighs, I mean, not a pound. But it’s got a little bit of weight to it, so we were swimming with it and holding it with our fist. Earlier in the year, we do a lot of things we throw stuff out in the water and they – these are the elite guys- we throw stuff out in the water and they chase it under water. They have to get three orange of these before they can come back to the wall. So they have to stay in the water a little longer. Then the ultimate moments though, we took this and put it in the back of their cap. And it helped to keep their head in line or – as a reminder keep the head in line. It’s a lot like that, the core – if you guys are seeing that where that keeps the body in line, but they call it the rat tail.
Put the rat tail in and they would have to swim with the rat tail in, it reminds them to keep their head down. But I was more enthralled with this – this creation, probably as much that was the technology, the exciting technology, the LumaLanes with all the color and all that stuff. So technology isn’t always the expensive stuff over there. A lot of times it’s the simple things that you have around your deck, it’s the neck collar that you can put on and remind them to keep the neck nice and long. It’s those kind of things, these are the points on that. Oh yeah technology, how about technology here –where is my iPhone? This thing can do more for your swimmers than probably any other equipment you can have. Just video them, and dump it into Coach’s Eye, Ubersense, whatever app you like, email them home, talk over it. Say hey you are looking really –it’s not so much the videoing and the feedback of the technical side. It’s them hearing that you care – that you took individual time to make them an individual – and copy their parents on it. Send it to the kid and the parents, home run, out of the park. You just won them for probably a season. So technology, you know this iPhone and video feedback is absolutely huge. All right, I will get this thing finished, culture their pools versus pulls and it is short on this one.
Although this is a giant topic and several talks about culture so I don’t need to expand on that too much. One question for you though, think of this. The terminology you use with your swimmers, do you use the terminology about using what I want for you, or do you use the terminology what I want from you. A big difference in the way you set-up your culture. My recommendation is that I have a culture of: this is what I want for you. That way you’re in a partnership. From you, you are giving them and you are putting to them, well – unfortunately the deal is what we are working with is the teenagers of this day. Keep in mind the college freshman right now was 4 years-old when 9/11 happened. They don’t know 9/11. They haven’t known this, they have always been connected their entire lives, the kids we are working with right now. They are just a different beast than what we as adults have grown up with. I got a lot of stuff here, but I am going to just zip past that. Okay, I have a video here on China diving, I am just going to tell you where to go look at this, look at the Talent Code blog. This is China’s culture of diving. They are the most kick-butt group there is in the world probably in athletics. And another one would be Netherlands, there is some nice articles on Netherlands speed skaters, but I always say Chinese divers.
And this one video will explain to you. You don’t even have to listen, or get any more information, you don’t have to read the blog, just watch the video – ”oh, I get it.” It shows them working, having the 10-year-olds working out with the elite athletes to the same facility. It shows when a guys splats on his back, they celebrate that, they are clapping. It shows them in the weight room having fun, they are learning that from us, which isn’t good news. We don’t want that– they start figuring that out too, that’s going to be dangerous. So a little bit like watching the Japanese at the Pan Pacs; they are awesome. They do so many things well and now they are having fun. They did not used to have in the old days, now they are having fun. They have learned how to handle their media; it’s a threat to our success. I love it though, because they are little bittys and they are flying in the water. It tells me that the US guys, that are 5’10”, you’ve got a chance. Girls that are 5’5”, you’ve got a chance, you know. If you talk well and learn, have fantastic technique and superior work ethic. All right, I am not going to be covering that one, because I want to get to this.
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[Marsh]: Well, The Talent Code, yeah. If you haven’t read that book, it’s a must read. When you get home, you get it right away and read it. Daniel Coyle has done some phenomenal research. This is my favorite part here. So, “Be the coach your athlete needs you to be.” That’s a challenge. Coach the person and not the athlete. So Tanya back there is – stay standing please, so they know who you are. So Tanya was a world-class swimmer when she swam, but what she is more important for my program is, she is the inspiration piece. When the kids start swimming, they come in and her sweet Southern voice she bends into them. She is a recent cancer survivor and has a lot of reasons to not be on a pool deck coaching. But she leans into them and she says, “Baby doll, I believe you can do this, baby doll.” And if we don’t do anything else right at SwimMAC, hiring people that love kids is something that we have made a concerted effort to do. That’s a foundation of what great coaching is. You need to love kids, you know.
Within that piece, understand that peer acceptance, the crabs, respect and how they interpret you respecting them and not how you interpret them. They should respect you, because I guarantee you, it is different. And then toughness. They want to be perceived tough, so do not call them cowards and wimps and that kind of stuff. They want to be perceived as tough, set them up so that when you give a set, you can choose this set or this set. Don’t have it be 3% difference, have it be 40% difference, so they are really more compelled to choose the tougher one or it’s going to be really obvious they are choosing the lighter set. That’s one of the little ways. You have all these little teachable moments that we have talked about during this clinic.
We have got to do this one now. All right so- two questions. Here is – some big question and you can write this down. “How is my swimmer about to experience me?” Before you go on the deck, before you go to meet, how is my swimmer about to experience me is something you can ask yourself. Do they need you to be calm or energized? They need to be thoughtful or emotional, do they need you to be serious or funny, do they need to have their personal space or you need to get up and be personal with them? What do they need from you is what should concern you and what is your style of doing that? Can you get fired up and move things around? My role model in coaching, in life, in a whole lot of ways… Richard Quick. This is a clip of him, because we don’t have him anymore; so we’ve got to look at clips. This is from a relays video that if you haven’t seen yet, all we need to look at one time from USA Swimming that shows all our relays. But this is him in Sydney Olympics explaining to relay girls what they should be thinking.
You get that, I mean he was… yeah thank you. I get always a little emotional when I see Richard in that state. So excuse me one second, I will get over this. So, becoming the coach you need the athlete to be, that is what he did so well. Here he is at the Sydney Olympics, where by the way I got to stand behind him during Misty Hyman’s 200 Butterfly where he made a giant adjustment of taking away her strength, kickouts were always a strength in her whole career. He took three kicks off of her walls and she went right by Susie O’Neill in the last 50, one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Olympics in Australia. And you know it is probably the number one highlight in my life to be standing with Richard while that was happening in my kind of swimming career, kind of life because it was a special, special moment that I got to experience with him. One more question that I want you to write down is okay last question. “Who do they need me to be right now?” Because after they have a crummy swim or good swim, you have a teachable moment. After our practice, when you’ve kind of pushed them more, they have slacked. Well who do they need me right now? You know when Ryan backed off and loafed the end of the 200 IM over in Pan Pacs and ended up in the consolation finals when he was half a body length ahead of Michael with 10 meters to go, he needed a teachable moment, okay.
As a first time I kind of jacked him up a little bit and reportedly he got the information from me properly because he apparently understands that it’s a little more serious than he had been to that point. The other side of it is I saw Mike Bottom once at the Manchester Short Course Worlds. Nathan Adrian had a really crummy 200 free, and I think I was a head coach of that so I was ticked, I was like, “Dag gummit, what was that crap?” Now I walked in and I saw Michael, oh good Michael is going to get him because Mike was his coach. Mike goes over there and he is just positive. He is like, “Man, you looked so good the first 50, unbelievable; you’re going to be awesome in that 100.” Last day of the meet, he wins the 100 freestyle by a lot. That was like his first breakout world-kind of swim. And it was just the magic happened after the crappy 200 free. It didn’t happen with any pep talk before the 100 free. So I’ve gone way over, I appreciate you guys staying here and paying attention and God bless you.
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