Athletic Telemetry for Fast-Forwarding Performance by Mike Bottom & Scott Hedges (2010)


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[introduction]: Good afternoon everyone. My name is Mary Anne Gerzanick-Liebowitz I’m the assistant coach at Oregon State University and I’m here to introduce to you this afternoon speaker Mike Bottom and I have gotten to that age where one needs these wonderful little glasses. Mike brings some wealth of international and collegiate coaching experience. He’s coached at the past four Olympic games and I’m sure we all remember the 2000 Olympic games where his athletes Anthony Ervin and Gary Hall tied in the 53. He served as an assistance coach for the 2009 FINA World Championship in Rome. He spent 10 seasons at California as the co-head men’s coach with Thornton, he coached 4 years at USC as an assistant men and women coach and he begin his career with David Marsh at Oberon University. He was a member of the 1980 US Olympic team, he was a world record holder in the 400 free style relay and a 4 time national team member. Currently, he is starting his 3rd year at the University of Michigan as the head men’s coach and he is not only a dynamic coach but he his a leader in the swimming technology field in Michigan. Please help me welcome Mike Bottom. [clapping]

Mike Bottom: We got to get the technology down here. Good to see you. I know that we have some stiff competition over there with Lauren Lacty and his coach your talking so I appreciate, I really appreciate you coming and listening and it’s my intent to give you something that you could walk out of here with not necessarily with equipment but with a knowledge of what your doing to prepare for technology because technology is coming. Technology is coming, it’s moving us forward and my commitment at Michigan is to be on the cutting edge of technology so when I heard about this opportunity, my first – my first call right a way was to Scott and Bruce and Bill and get them – to get on board with them because I feel like technology is coming and what we need to do is be prepared for it so, this is a great opportunity for you to see what’s coming and what’s in the future and then to think about how you are going to prepare yourself whether you buy this system and get in to your – into your center or whether you’re going to a center of excellence or center that has this type of technology. How you going to used it? So, you know my vision of course with collegiate swimming is to win right? And we want to win in the pool, we want to win internationally but we also want to take our student athletes and produce winner’s right? And student athletes as college coaches know, a winner is someone who graduates, who’s with – who’s we’ve propelled for to achieve out in the working world and we’ll come back and say thanks coach, you taught me this, you taught me that, you taught me this. So, my intentions is to empower the students athletes, to give them as much information as I possibly can and then help them to make choices and I think as a college coach, that’s what I need to do because those guy’s are going to be making choices in 2 or 3 years when they graduate, they are going to make a lot of choices and the better that I can equip them for those choices out in the working world the better I do as college coach so, we want to embrace technology you know, at Michigan and I’m sure that – most college coach is “We want to do something like this, to move forward in technology” so it’s Scott Hedges vie president of Avida Sports. We’ve some great talks. Scott, you want to take over here and tell them a little bit about the product? My intention is to talk to you a little bit about how to prepare for the products, so I’m going to talk to you about what I‘ve been pushing for the last l0 years and that’s understanding different style of strokes and understanding that you could teach your athletes different style of strokes and if I can motivate you as coaches to do that, I feel like I’ve done my job in preparing you for the technology is coming and it’s coming and Scott you want to tell them what’s coming?

Scott: Great yup. I’m going to need this [Long pause]. Thanks Mike. First of all I like to thank both Mike and Josh. We have been very fortunate to work with such great coaching ideas that have come out of their program and at a very years of experience, we’re very fortunate to have them here but also to have – work with them to really fine tune and refine our products to [05:14] you would is going to be rolling out this month. Our official launch is this month and our first installations in facilities around the country will happen in October. So what I’m going to do right now is a really to have a high level, just kind of give you an idea of what the product is, so when Mike and Josh talk about how they are going to incorporate it, yeah but little bit of an idea of the basic understanding of the product. If you’re hearing yourself a video that give a high overview as well, there’s a lot of opportunities you can take from this kind of technology, so I’m going to kind of talk at a pretty high level but more than happy to speak with anybody one on one or back at the both on the vendor hall about more details. But this concept about athletic telemetry the ability to have this remote collection and sharing of information in real time up to a 100 swimmers being connected with you during your practice and all that data be on archive, this athletic telemetry where it – is an opportunity to have technology that really compliments your coaching style, your program, your philosophy. It adapts to you, you don’t have to adapt to something else, and so it’s going to be one of this unmatched tools in the coach and swimmer’s toolbox. What we’re doing – you can see the device is right up here. The athletes had equipped with 5 devices, there were one of each wrist as you saw in the video, one of each ankle and then the 5th was under the swimming cap and that one under the swimming cap has an ear bud and that’s how we’re able to communicate to the athlete. Our system – the computer system can communicate to the athlete as well as the coach can communicate to the athlete, what we’re doing every single length of the swimmers is – his training, the device has know which stroke your doing and it’s capturing these – these metrics on every single athlete in the pool, so we’re capturing their phase which is their average speed, their length time, their split time per time. It’s capturing their stroke count, the number of stroke they take per length, their tempo per stroke, their average distance per stroke, their break out time, their kick count and kick tempo. Recently came across a quote from CEO of Google about the next generations of leaps in technology will come from the fact that people is always online, connected, communicating, their sharing information. When we read that, it really kind of stuck with the – what we’re doing but our first product called the [07:32] Vitametrics. We think about this concept of being connected you know, the swimmers know that they are being – they are connected to something, they are connected to the coach, they are connected to the system, they are being watched, they are being monitored. There’s this heightened awareness of what I’m doing goes beyond just – my effort goes beyond just what I’m been ask to do in the practice but it’s all being monitored, I’m going to be able to review that, my coach is watching it right now, this whole connectedness is a great way to keep the athlete focused and concentrating during practice. But this ability to communicate, this is what they – a coach would see on the screen, you can have a slay pc, a laptop. On deck, you can see your whole team up here. It’s all the girl teams, you can see those metric across the top. So they got all the metrics right up here. Every single length that an athlete swims, those metrics are going to be re populated so you are going to see every time that Andy finishes a length of the pool, her phase is going to pop-up, her breakout time and so forth. For this purpose, we’ve only listed the two columns of metrics but as a coach you can have all the data in here or you can have no data and as this four columns we are showing over here, the purpose with that is we are also capturing all of his data all season long on the athlete and we have this compare against opportunity, so right now every single one of my athletes in the pool is being compared against their seasons average of data, so I know that Andy – she’s green across the board meaning she is performing right now above her season average and all of those metric. If she’s yellow, she is right about on par, if she’s red, she’s performing below and you can see there’s a couple of girls out here with some red metrics. As a coach, I now have this opportunity to go up to them you know, encourage them, kick them in the rear whatever the case might need to be to get them back on the green team you know, so I have this opportunity to communicate with them like I’ve never had before they’re connected with right on deck. This other opportunity here, you have Meagan highlighted and I can pick an individual swimmer, I can pick a group of swimmers, I can pick the entire team in the pool and I can talk to them now for the first time. So right here I can – I’m sending Meagan a phone call you know, I hit the send button and she hears it as she is training in the pool. All of those phone calls are also recorded so, after practicing, go back in and they can see all their data and it sink with any those phone calls or messages that I left for her, right. At the same you’ll see over here we’ve got the opportunity, we have this performance metrics. The athlete can have two metrics being fed by the computer system in their earbud every length. So, every time a summer comes off the pool today, they are going to get their phase time and the number of strokes and fed back to the mini earbud, so they get this length for lenght feedback. So, they have the opportunity right there to be connected and being communicated to, to make decisions while they’re training, to be in sync with what they’re doing – and again this is for the entire team, all happening simultaneously. The swimmer can pick the metrics they want to hear or you as a coach can override, you can pick them for the entire team. Now, you can let the kids pick or you can pick? Okay? You want to go ahead [Inaudible] [0:10:54]? This issue of being online you know, all this data like I said is all web based. After practice they – from the dorm room, from home, from your office is all accessible. There’s – all these graph you can do with the data, there’s an opportunity there to really do a deep dive if you want. To analyze, to compare one metric to another, to compare today’s practice, to attest that you did a week ago, a month ago, a season to ago. So, everything is right there at your fingertips and then this whole idea of sharing information, as a coach you can choose – I want my athletes to see each other’s data or I don’t want them to. If you choose to let them see each others data you can – they’re going to get a scorecard on how they perform today in practice. We have this ability to show these rankings. They can rank themselves with their other teammates that might be training in the same way with them or perhaps the pool, whole opportunity to share information and build that friendly competitiveness within a training group within the team to really keep people on mark and on track to where they are going. So, that as I said is a very high level what the product does but we’re happy as I said to talk within any of you afterwards if you’d like some more information. Okay? So, I’m going to hit it back to over to Mike and he can he start talking about his use of the technology.

Mike Bottom: So – so in – can you guys doing alright? Like did you see [Inaudible] [0:12:25]. Yeah, we everything – keep [Indiscernible] [0:12:28] in understand how to use products because obviously anything that are different [Inaudible] [0:12:38]. So then an athlete – if you’re being an athlete, do these different strokes then they start having twice at this moment. We started out in 2000 early 2000 [Inaudible] [0:12:51]. We now have [Inaudible] [0:12:55] backstroke, freestyle [Inaudible] [0:12:57], freestyle [Inaudible] [0:12:58] there’s a lot more that we are going to discover, right? And the more like you think you’re happy, the better, making [Inaudible] [0:13:06] to be able to utilize this technology when it comes into your – your [Inaudible] [0:13:10]. It’s the air. It’s highly [Inaudible] [0:13:13]. So, get on board, understand the – I understand [Indiscernible] [0:13:23]. I’ve heard you to understand that as well is that our control elevates and with the team, with their athletes, as we teach them the things that [Inaudible] [0:13:33] Alright, so what I’m going to do is to [Inaudible] [0:13:39] you know, my passion is to teach you of the strokes, of the two different [Indiscernible] [0:13:44] freestyle, I’m only going to find [Inaudible] [0:13:47] tow types of freestyle that we use [Inaudible] [0:13:49] freestyle and the shoulder freestyle. You [Inaudible] [0:13:53] is the body group freestyle, you’ll see Nathan do that and see all of – how he [Inaudible] [0:14:59] all of that even Peter [Inaudible] [0:14:01] in this [Inaudible] [0:14:03]. Let’s look at the hip driven freestyle first. What I’m going to do is I have to clip the video and let you discover as I call out the different part of the hip driven freestyle. Just watch and see if you can [Inaudible] [0:14:20] best stroke or [Inaudible] [0:14:21]. So it’s [Inaudible] [0:14:24] , alright? And you went through and watch the timing of his kick and his high level catch of arm and shoulder through the max systems now [Inaudible] [0:14:37] out of elbow moves up, the fingertips go towards the bottom of the pool of [Inaudible] [0:14:43] drives down with a kick of the abs tightening as it connects all the way through the tip and movement of the hips. How they hold – how this about to happen, how he holds the water in the front of his stroke and how he release this water in the back of his stroke and we roll that to 100 alright? I’m just going to second, you guys I like you to look at the video. See if you could see the portions of the hip-driven stroke. Skate on the hip, arms and shoulders at max different distance, different down, hands slides out at the beginning of the stroke, elbow up, fingertips towards the bottom of the pool. Drive – opposite hip down with a kick, abs tight, translate your power through to the hand, hold the water at the front end and release in the back. So, you’re standing on deck, you’re watching this stroke. The [Indiscernible] [0:15:42]. They’re getting – this athlete is getting the feedback when he’s getting and what I would program [Inaudible] [0:15:48] is his tempo [Inaudible] [0:15:52] every practice, this athlete had to turn and quick [Inaudible] [0:15:56]. He’s going to hear his tempo and [Inaudible] [0:15:58]. You can start to play with that [Inaudible] [0:16:02] and if we can increase the speed, [Inaudible] [0:16:05] that he is putting in so that’s our programming [Inaudible] [0:16:11]. So, you hear any [Inaudible] [0:16:13] your tempo and start getting phase. Okay, guess what, because the [Inaudible] [0:16:18] shoulder different stroke and see a drastic different stroke, okay? And if you look [Inaudible] [0:16:24] while you read them. Shoulder elevate, rotate hip [Inaudible] [0:16:32] pressure point, hips flat and heel [Inaudible] [0:16:35], drag forward down or at the same time, [Inaudible] [0:16:41] your hand, maintain tension into the shoulder towards the elbow and rotated up, hand onward, set in rotation, pull [Inaudible] [0:16:51] finish and [Inaudible] [0:16:54] shoulders and max [Inaudible] [0:16:56] the water, arm is sink, one hand, one arm always down in water, alright? Now lets look at the – let’s look at [Inaudible] [0:17:05] exactly [Inaudible] [0:17:05] 502 – 495 [Inaudible] [0:17:09]. Do it’s a drills, right? Working on – connecting through the shoulder is working on and watch that kick as he moves his hand forward into the connected [Inaudible] [0:17:22] all different kick [Inaudible] [0:17:23] involve shoulder-driven stroke. There’s a whole different connections involve with shoulder-driven stroke. That was one good, one bad. That’s what I’m trying to say now, there is a little bit of bad [Inaudible] [0:17:37] moving forwards, learning knew stroke. You can see on differently strokes [Inaudible] [0:17:44] full swim and you can see how – how it works then I’m going to go ahead and read of those same things to that – that were onboard and see if you could pick them out [Inaudible] [0:17:53] as a technician. Okay, shoulders elevate. Shoulders elevated, connected to the center of your back. Hips flat, [Inaudible] [0:18:04] by a high driving kick. Shoulders driven downward at the same time when you are spinning the forearm [Inaudible] [0:18:13] the hand, maintain tension in the shoulders, pulling elbow rotating up, hands on the water extended with the rotation. Well, extend to [Inaudible] [0:18:27] arm and sure to full rotate to the shoulders so full extension of your finish arm or finish hand. You get the full rotation to the shoulder – arm didn’t sink, one hand, arm always on the water. You know we’ve all see, we have all watch the difference [Inaudible] [0:18:49] freestyle into the water but what I’m saying is that [Inaudible] [0:18:55] different stroke and a 50 freestyle can [Inaudible] [0:19:01] and as we go through the process too and as we get – that we move forward in technology, we have – the swimmer has an opportunity to make a change as we move forward but the first step is to teach them the difference so that [Inaudible] [0:19:18] and begin [Inaudible] [0:19:19] let’s go ahead. Alright, [Inaudible] [0:19:23] great example of new [Inaudible] [0:19:26] technology. Now, most of you would say Peter was not and that’s to something and I would agree with that. Peter had a solid feet, he had good [Inaudible] [0:19:36] it wasn’t his best. [Inaudible] [0:19:39]. But Peter is in a process [Inaudible] [0:19:41] of learning these different strokes and when you swim the 200 and 400 in mile, he can do a different strokes and then the truth is the learning [Inaudible] [0:19:54] and it’s not – everything [Inaudible] [0:19:57] to translate in that so many project [Inaudible] [0:19:59] run away, Dr. Josh is going to talk a little bit about the ability to train with the different strokes and racing strokes, [Inaudible] [0:20:10]. But let’s watch Peter and I’m going to tell you – as you’re watching him with different strokes, I’m going to talk to you a little bit about his race as 400. When Peter went and swim 400, he’s [Inaudible] [0:20:21] he started out 26 [Inaudible] [0:20:23] then he moved to 29, about 29, 29, 29, 29 and then – and that was the [Inaudible] [0:20:32] stroke and this is – Peter has the best – in my opinion, the best [Inaudible] [0:20:36] stroke in the world and just feel that he’s got so much ability to get on [Inaudible] [0:20:44], lie down and [Inaudible] [0:20:45] and that could skip all the things that we talked about, different strokes. He’s not perfect, he’s moving forward and that’s – and as Steve’s wired up, he’s going to be able to hear having strokes and stuff and the time. In the past, he’s been having stroke, Peter’s [Inaudible] [0:21:05] ability to understand how much lack that you produced. So when after the end of the 400, we talked about he’s speed in swimming where he went in [Inaudible] [0:21:17] all the way through into the last [Inaudible] [0:21:20] and then he went short and if you look at stroke rates, they were – started out at [Inaudible] [0:21:30] per minute and [Inaudible] [0:21:34] he started out at you know, maybe 40 – 40, he’s first lap with that and it dropped down to 33 – 33, consistent, 33. That cycle come in, then when he decided to go [Inaudible] [0:21:51], he just raise, went up to 38.41 and the [Inaudible] [0:21:57] speed, went 29 to 28.6 and 28.4. What we need to do now is help him to understand how to work in two different strokes, okay? How to move from completely doing a hip [Inaudible] [0:22:44] stroke to adding a little more connection and a little more connection and little more connection and a little more connection and the only way to do that is to give him a feedback, like he’s the one making things, I’m not alright, and the problem that I’ve found, working in Michigan and being a [Inaudible] [0:22:32] based program, because I can’t talk – when do I get to talk to these guys, right? We start about a half an hour [Inaudible] [0:22:49] and it’s like, I tried to talk them and just you know, [Inaudible] [0:22:44] and this is a great opportunity because they can hear in here, I could talk in here because I’m going to go on and let Josh to take it over from here. Josh can talk a little bit about you know moving from racing to training and how to do that.

Josh: So I think – when was it – about six months ago maybe that was announced that University of Michigan and these sports were going to be at [Inaudible] [0:23:17] partnership of working on and developing and make them accurate and being outside and since then probably at least once in every meet I’ve gone to, someone has asked maybe and probably Mike and everyone “Well, how are you going to use it? What are you going to do with all of this information?” And for me, coming from my background, I’m a huge numbers guy, I love numbers okay, so it’s kind of like being a kid in a candy store for me, and I think there really kind of two main ways that I think were – we have thought about initially really using the product to help us and that’s way to one, especially Steve in training and then starting to understand the “Why’s” of training. So improve the spasticity of training you know, we always want to move towards more and more specific training and what we use to that are [Inaudible] [0:24:20] or race [Inaudible] [0:24:22] twice a week and we do very different things for the different groups but all this time have gone being specific training at [Inaudible] [0:24:30] and hopefully at [Inaudible] [0:24:33] stroke [Inaudible] [0:24:36]. [Pause] what we’re getting now is we’re getting some very detail race analysis break [Inaudible] [0:24:46], now this is an example of a USA swimming, race analysis for the top three best time from one of our guys and you can see how detailed it goes down and not just the [Inaudible] [0:24:59] the number of the cycles in that 50, the rates for that, the grass on the [Inaudible] [0:25:04] change over the course of the 50, so it’s very-very specific. But that – you can also do the [Inaudible] [0:25:13] by using video tape or frequently do it on [Inaudible] [0:26:17] lots of people do that, okay? It’s easy to do during competition but the way to really getting use that information to benefit you is simply be able to train [Inaudible] [0:25:29] and obviously training is a much [Inaudible] [0:25:32] instead of having one person maybe two people at the [Inaudible] [0:25:35] now you got 30 people doing the same set and trying to measure that information at the same time and you have a hard time [Inaudible] [0:25:43] things, can I get 10 people doing race phase, can I get their tempo, their stroke path, and the time all at the same time so we know that we’re in those zones. Obviously, the [Inaudible] [0:24:55] is not, I can’t do that with stopwatch or two stopwatches, but I think that’s what we – really a vision, a big news of biometrics scheme because we want to use that to help us measure those – those opportunities during practice for the entire team and then not only a real coaches giving feedback but they are actually – they’re also getting a feedback directly in their year, so they know their training zone, they know for my 200 page [Inaudible] [0:26:26] this time and this stroke [Inaudible] [0:26:29] and they get that back in their year after these 50’s, they’re going to know, [Inaudible] [0:26:35] okay? And – so that’s what we’re really ambitioning, wanted to make uses. I think the other thing that we’re always doing as coaches is asking “Why?” you know, at least I’m always asking why you know, Mike and my – we have own discussions and we sit in there and talk about why, why does this happen, why did the guy performed better than you know, I think what we want to learn is a lot of the “Why’s” to the company for amazing performance. These are – why is somebody going faster, why is that this guy training and everything [Inaudible] [0:27:09] it’s getting regular [Inaudible] [0:27:11], does he make some of those changes that are helping you with main, to improve resistant per stroke? Is he just [Inaudible] [0:27:18] this is tempo five, if we start to learn that information, then we’re going to know where we’re [Inaudible] [0:27:25] coaches and where we can take up the slack and do a little bit better job, when we can see that throughout the [Inaudible] [0:27:32] I think the other great things is we strive to try and record as much as we can so that we have to store for basics, for understanding not just competition but the training of our athletes. But everybody know [Inaudible] [0:27:46] one, you get the risk down during a practice, well then you have to find the time to save some of our info – the information and I think a lot of us – it’s a real talent but prior – I think a lot of the time, what we see and what the athletes see, it’s kind of a different to – in watching a child grow, alright? I have a niece that I get to visit you know, probably every 3 to six months and every time I see her, she looks a lot different but for her parents, she doesn’t look much different because they see her day to day and I think a lot of time as an athlete or a coach, it’s hard to evaluate primary thinking [Inaudible] [0:28:26] and where they might have come form because you see them swimming everyday you know, we doesn’t see like large change with day to day and I think it really can encourage the athletes to say, “Look at where I was the last season, so look at where I was a month ago” and say “Hey, I have improved. My numbers [Inaudible] [0:28:43]” and I think that the beauty of – one of the beauty’s of the [Inaudible] [0:28:49] is that that information is there, it’s stored, you don’t have to do anything with the – except to look at it and start to think and I know that Mike and I a lot of times would sit and we have these great discussions about why we’re doing, what we’re doing and we might want to change and what we’ve been through works really well and so frequently say “Oh, I wish I had the time, the [Inaudible] [0:29:13]” and “I wish I knew what they’re talking about was” on something like that years ago. Now we succeeded in helping [Inaudible] [0:29:22] in little bit more distance per stroke but maintain the high tempo over the years for [Inaudible] [0:29:26] and we done that and I think now we have that information available to us and challenge in fact on us as coaches and how are we going to use that information to back up our athletes [Inaudible] [0:29:41] so, we are really excited, we’re looking forward to having that information available and being able to use it, to move forward.

MS: You know I’m going to follow with Josh. If you’re like the – you’re feeling a little anxious but – if you feel a little anxious, why because…

MS: [Inaudible] [0:30:03]

MS: [Inaudible] [0:30:07] Josh is great, but whereas Peter’s this, Peter’s that, learns program, do this and that. That – I [Inaudible] [0:30:14] and I think that what you’re looking forward to be having the information there. For us, most – their [Inaudible] [0:30:31] so, again our anxiety [Inaudible] [0:30:35] want to pass it on to those below you to detail – I don’t know what you’re doing and anxiety [Inaudible] [0:30:43] by continuing to teach because [Inaudible] [0:30:47] called a coach, I really – and I think about it and yeah, I like watching guys [Inaudible] [0:30:52] but my passion is to see them around and I know it’s for you to think about when you’re talking with the – and for the 9th time and someone would say that they also – there’s smart like you right, but the incredible view that you can see, [Inaudible] [0:31:15] and that’s who we are, as a coach, we’re there and getting across, [Inaudible] [0:41:18] and this stuff is going [Inaudible] [0:31:22] and yes it is – there is a lot to learn, there is another layer, the time – what is going to be needed? It’s not – we are all in the basic confusion and we know how it works, we all see the DVD, I don’t know, I mean you’re getting [Inaudible] [0:31:43] keep moving forward and those of you who are young and those of you who [Inaudible] [0:31:51] you’re used to it, those [Inaudible] [0:31:54] older. But I encourage you to start with – try to understand what kind of change at these stroking, start with these, to understand, that there is difference knee to chest [Inaudible] [0:32:12] breast strokes, that you might [Inaudible] [0:31:14] breast strokes and you might even watch [Inaudible] [0:32:15] that those. What is right you know, you got [Inaudible] [0:32:22] like this, so you know, up here or underneath, right? And the break is there are so many opportunities to learn and this gives us the opportunity to [Inaudible] [0:32:37]. If you’re happy with the response of the, you know, the third year, saying we’re…

MS: What’s next?

MS: Leave some question, any questions related with…

MS: Oh, questions. [Chuckles]

MS: Can you give us some specific examples of how you use this [Inaudible] [0:32:57] everyday test-test to over get out, over get out, this could exist even more specific. The technology is involving and [Inaudible] [0:33:11] for us, we’re on [Inaudible] [0:33:14] and thanks to this people. They’ve given [Inaudible] [0:33:20], right? So, how to use it? Well, [Inaudible] [0:33:24]. How to use it into summer? [Indiscernible] [0:33:28] was – I would do different patterns of stroke and [Inaudible] [0:33:33] but Peter would say if you – the stroke, I mean the stroke is working on the different stroke. What to see, what’s the stroke, what’s their energy production, okay? You can [Inaudible] [0:33:47]. What we will be using in because we’re going to have a [Inaudible] [0:33:51] and we are [Indiscernible] [0:33:54] have to set wherein every week in [Inaudible] [0:33:59] to that set but that set is going to be a great part of set and it’s going to be done every week and we’re going to have that – at least one set. We might have really maxed something like that and we [Inaudible] [0:34:12] but at this point is to get a group having one set and then some of the other teams that will involve in to that with that technology. Josh, if you want [Inaudible] [0:34:24].

Josh: Yeah. Okay. I think – pardon to what you can do with the product. It wasn’t exactly [Inaudible] [0:34:32] so they call – I think they call bumps, right? At several [Inaudible] [0:34:37]. So, you’ll have five different – is it five or [Inaudible] [0:34:42], alright? That you keep a report any information here so like what I’m try to say about you can have [Inaudible] [0:34:48] to max out, can you [Inaudible] [0:34:50] where you can store that information in different places. So, when you come back and the next time you’ll need the set, you can really compare yourself only to the set and see e that feedback immediately for the – for that set, you could get a direct [Inaudible] [0:35:08] how did you do last week, like some season average, and think as he proving or not proving and look at all the matrix and [Inaudible] [0:35:15]. So I think that’s have a very – test that for, you know, how you pay this type of staff for [Inaudible] [0:35:23] or perhaps this very specific [Inaudible] [0:35:26].

Speaker: [Inaudible] [0:35:30]

Josh: The analysis [Inaudible] [0:35:33] information trigger for freestyle strokes and does any as the combining task as in to, you know, the issue, one and then other running parameters [Inaudible] [0:35:51] that were suppose to [Inaudible] [0:35:54] perhaps more of an issue or [Inaudible] [0:35:57].

Speaker: I think that was they’re asking you [Inaudible] [0:36:06]. But there is, you know, a different stroke [Inaudible] [0:36:10] stroke or shoulder [Inaudible] [0:36:13] stroke, [Inaudible] [0:36:15] stroke and the body control [Inaudible] [0:36:18] stroke or when in everything else’s say and it even goes to report. And that question I think in short [Inaudible] [0:36:30] I mean, understanding that you want to teach it to everybody, okay? And [Inaudible] [0:36:35] how that theirs was 90-2 are really in the freestyle. 90-2, I would say 40-9, okay? [Inaudible] [0:36:45] freestyle. We are talking [Inaudible] [0:36:47] to do shoulders stroke, so that’s – we’ve been at the 90-2, alright? Most of the time you can go [Indiscernible] [0:36:57] and do it.

[Next Speaker]: I think that what you are asking is what [Indiscernible] [0:36:06] do we have and the area is you know, different stroke to that main stroke or is a totally different strokes has [Indiscernible] [0:36:15] stroke…

[Next Speaker]: Yeah.

[Next Speaker]: …and the body of the stroke, is that a different stoke or when everything else stay and we needed those to [Indiscernible] [0:36:24] And that question I think is short circuit you I mean understanding that you want to teach this to everybody and you [Indiscernible] [0:36:35] was 19-2 on relay if you didn’t reset. 19-2 – let’s say 418 and they done 3 sets we caught them to do this whole different circle, so that’s – we’ve been in that 19-2 and most of the time you can go [Indiscernible] [00:36:57] doing – I guess you’re doing the strokes and you can help [Indiscernible] [0:37:02] with different stroke and with different results and these with the matrix, you could really [Indiscernible] [0:37:08]. You’re going to see the speed, if it gives [Indiscernible] [0:37:13]. When you change strokes, this is – the rates increase or decrease and this timing alright? So the – but the energy output was what reciprocal and [Indiscernible] [0:37:31] is in understanding strokes is how you look different things [Indiscernible] [0:37:35] is this understanding a good job. In 200 free styles per type of control is driven all the way through sometimes when dark, yeah. And that’s the difficult thing to understand, yeah. So this will help them in understanding practice as now you doing on to me, so you get in to practice. Good question. And it might sound like you selling this you know, we’re telling you, you know, weekly reports anywhere, alright? We [Indiscernible] [0:38:07], they brought us in and we are very thankful for their investors in this technology, I mean, the millions of dollars. They’re trying to invest in this technology by this time – this is – I’ve never heard you know, I mean, thanks to you all for all you have done for us [Indiscernible] [0:38:25], this investment in this technology is [Indiscernible] [0:38:32] going in to this and I can’t think, I can build this one because what look good under the sun, this technology – we hope now, well, this help increase something great, so we got in to in you know, so be then outside we got to race and when you have the [Indiscernible] [0:38:57] just try to understand what you understand to us, open your remind a little bit more to [Indiscernible] [0:39:03] and in understanding that this is a great thing I’ve ever experience, you never argue with some help. I have few customers training with me [Indiscernible] [0:39:16] and we were working on a [Indiscernible] [0:39:19] just two people at the start. We have to try the – we got to try to track so, we got to try it along so, and we tried. Finally we convince them to track and set [Indiscernible] [0:39:31] and she got up there, the first time she did the track start she’s like two 100 off the best time and [Indiscernible] [0:39:42] she went good gain, why? Because all of a sudden there was measurement for us then – and she knew [Indiscernible] [0:39:52], as she just she was shocked and however she [Indiscernible] [0:39:56] what would she going to do? Check [Indiscernible] [0:40:00], right? I just told you this, this seems as a screening to teach a variety strokes and a variety of opportunity to see. And that’s what’s important you get that? Imagine – and everybody all know business world [Indiscernible] [0:40:20] measure but you might replicate that.

[Next Speaker]: Awesome. There you go.

[Next Speaker]: Any other questions for Mike or for Josh? Please, thank you, thank you…[Claps]

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